RFL Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Not a chance, it would be like ripping the heart out of the team.
White Linen Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, jdonley1180 said: yes 30 yrs + RB's are expendable for the right price even if theyre bound for Canton What "right price" do you get for an "expendable" player? I swear, do some of you read your own posts back to yourselves? Edited April 21, 2018 by White Linen
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 No. He is our offense, and will be a valuable asset to our young QB.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 No, unless you're not going to draft at least two capable offensive linemen.
BADOLBILZ Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 5 hours ago, mannc said: He has little or no trade value, so no, He has little trade value and at the same time it would make it more difficult for a young QB like McCarron or the rookie succeeding in 2017. They've already essentially swapped out Cordy Glenn for Jordan Mills/McDermott/Newhouse to get a 3rd round pick...........which is pretty scary on the surface. So not sure what's worse.......a young pocket QB with a rookie RB pass blocking for him or starting a low-end vet like Chris Ivory.
BADOLBILZ Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 5 hours ago, NoSaint said: Not trying to change your mind, but for discussion sake... at that point 2 years of shady with no guarantees vs 4 years of Barkley fully guaranteed with both at the same pay rate.... the pick gets you a little longevity but with a pass rusher or corner or... it saves you $10m a year in cap space that can be spent on addition barkley looks like a great player but the structure of pay slotting vs positional pay rates for vets makes running back a really limited value that early. I've said it many times..........people need to understand that rookie contracts are short and 5th year options are prohibitive. Basically they get Barkley for 3 potentially happy seasons...........and then that 5th year option has to be picked up or not........and then feelings start getting hurt. It's not like back in the day when you picked Donte Whitner and knew you were basically bound to him for 6 years..........decisions have to be made earlier. We just saw 3 big time talent WR's change hands after only 3 seasons with the team that picked them because of the option...........that's something that will continue to happen.
Fadingpain Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 I would consider it in in principle. By the time we are good and the QB we draft has matured into The Man, Shady isn't going to be around anyway. Don't think you can get much for him, though, so it's all kind of moot. Or in TSW parlance, mute.
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Depends on what we're trading for. A bag of chips? A 3rd rounder? A piece of lint?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 If need be, he's an aging back and like all RBs are easily replaceable. I want him here but if it gives a us a franchise QB for 15-20 years or keeping a RB for 5 max I'm taking the QB every time.
Freddie's Dead Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Says here, no OL, no WR, now no RB, but we got a QB. 4-12 sounds about right.
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 11 hours ago, White Linen said: We'd get a 5th or 6th round pick for him. What do you propose we do with that? What makes u think this is his value i know he's almost at that age but he's a special player that's alluded big hits for the majority of his career. The only way i trade him is for a 2nd rd pk anything less i keep him.
jdonley1180 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 8 hours ago, White Linen said: What "right price" do you get for an "expendable" player? I swear, do some of you read your own posts back to yourselves? ya i read it. I think most runningbacks are expendable, especially ones that are 30 + years old. How good can McCoy be running behind a bunch of scrubs on the Oline here in Buffalo? Another team that may be built to win now and has a decent Oline could probably get more production out if him, thus making him more valuable to said team. At what price do we let McCoy go? That's a tough one, because I don't think you could get anything more than a 3rd for him, and that at face value seems like a loss for us. But taking his contract into consideration, and the depth of Oline talent in this years draft, I think I could live with that.
BuffaloRush Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) I'd encourage everyone to check out The Bills Beat Podcast with Joe Buscaglia, Matt Fairburn, and guest host Tyler Dunne. The three role play as one of the actual GM's in the league. Much shade is thrown at John Dorsey and Dave Gettleman for being "Football guys." They have the Bills trading up to #2 by giving away #12, #22, #56 and a #1 in 2019. Anyway toward the end of the draft they pose a very interesting question. You can hear the audio for yourself at the 1 hour and 33 minutes mark. With the potential of 6 QB's going in the first, there is sure to be some highly ranked talent that gets pushed out of the first round - notably players at WR, DL, and LB. Philadelphia is a team that really doesn't have many pressing needs filled this year in the draft. If you are Brandon Beane do you consider trading Shady to the Eagles for that #32 pick? The idea here is that it would be a win-win for both parties and the Bills would be "doing right" for Shady. He would have the chance to reach 12,000 yards, help contend for a Super Bowl, and potentially retire with a team that he still clearly loves. Also it was rumored that once Howie Roseman took control of personnel back from Chip Kelly, one of the players he tried to get back was LeSean. So it shows that there could be interested there. The Bills would take a hit in the immediate future, but would get great value for a 30 year old running back who might only have a few seasons left. They also could use one of the mid-round picks on the replacement for Shady. It is an interesting question. All three said it's very unlikely for several reasons, but Fairburn said that given Shady's age the Bills should strongly consider it. What do you think? Edited April 22, 2018 by BuffaloRush 1
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 No. Don’t trade Shady and don’t trade White. Outside of those two, I really don’t care.
BuffaloRush Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, kdiggz said: Yes if the kid from LSU is available In the mock draft Derrius Guice was available I believe. I was thinking Nick Chubb too 1
BillnutinHouston Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 To me it's a no-brainer - yes! Shady's on the down side of his career and carries a big salary. If you can exchange that for 4 years of a quality starter at a low salary, you do it every time.
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