Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) I argued that Thurman is overlooked in the world of modern running backs and is a top 10 RB in NFL history... sure he didn’t dazzle like Barry or churn out 5 yard runs at a whack like Emmitt... but he was the most complete back of his time... his running, receiving, blocking and toughness made him the most rounded back of his Era his power / speed ratio was the best in the NFL and he was a violent runner led the NFL in yards from scrimmage an NFL record 4 consecutive seasons... an NFL MVP... a first ballot HoF 9th ALL TIME in yards from scrimmage As a student of the game I don’t find it foolish to say Thurman is a top 10 modern back Edited April 14, 2018 by Buffalo716 7
Augie Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 I fully agree. Emmitt is overrated IMO playing as long as he did behind great OLines. He was certainly good, but I’d rather have Thurman. 2
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:16 AM, Buffalo716 said: I argued that Thurman is overlooked in the world of modern running backs and is a top 10 RB in NFL history... sure he didn’t dazzle like Barry or churn out 5 yard runs at a whack like Emmitt... but he was the most complete back of his time... his running, receiving, blocking and toughness made him the most rounded back of his Era his power / speed ratio was the best in the NFL and he was a violent runner led the NFL in yards from scrimmage an NFL record 4 consecutive seasons... an NFL MVP... a first ballot HoF As a student of the game I don’t find it foolish to say Thurman is a top 10 modern back Expand Define modern as in what era.
Augie Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:21 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Define modern as in what era. Expand Since disco? No...that’s probably not right. 3
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 Top 10 all time? I’ll say no... Top 20-25? Sure juice, brown, Campbell, Walter, sayers, Dickerson, sanders, LT, Faulk and Peterson off hand... I’m sure I forget 2-3 that could be in the 10 3 1
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) On 4/14/2018 at 3:21 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Define modern as in what era. Expand I would say modern Era is around Jim Brown , OJ. You can include Jim or not 1960-70 somewhere in there Edited April 14, 2018 by Buffalo716
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:24 AM, Buffalo716 said: I would say modern Era is around Jim Brown , OJ. You can include Jim or not 1960-70 somewhere in there Expand He's not top ten for me. Too many greats ahead of him.
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:20 AM, Augie said: I fully agree. Emmitt is overrated IMO playing as long as he did behind great OLines. He was certainly good, but I’d rather have Thurman. Expand Those were some of my points... emmitt had over 1700 more carries than Thurman... extrapolate Thurman’s 4.2 over 1700 carries and he retires around 18000 and the record 1
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:26 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: He's not top ten for me. Too many greats ahead of him. Expand I certainly can’t change your mind... lots of legends
Augie Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 It’s not fair or maybe even correct, but I knock Faulk down because he’s an idiot. And AP hardly ever caught a ball and was not the pass protection guy Thurman was. Yes, I’m biased. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:28 AM, Buffalo716 said: I certainly can’t change your mind... lots of legends Expand It's a crowded group. Just like WR is. 1
Augie Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:29 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a crowded group. Just like WR is. Expand I’d support Thurman more in the push up than Andre. Hey, just my opinion. Thurman should have been Super Bowl MVP in a friggin loss. Give him the ball more and we actually WIN! 4 1
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:29 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a crowded group. Just like WR is. Expand Yup. My point was how well rounded Thurman was... You can make the case he was the Engine that kept the K gun running... he did everything for the Bills i don’t think he’s the best but being as well rounded and versatile as he is pushes him up the list imo give him 4000 Carries like Emmitt and he has the rushing title 1
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:32 AM, Augie said: I’d support Thurman more in the push up than Andre. Hey, just my opinion. Thurman should have been Super Bowl MVP in a friggin loss. Give him the ball more and we actually WIN! Expand I agree wholeheartedly, but please don't get me started. 15 FN carries for the entire game was a travesty! 2
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:29 AM, Augie said: It’s not fair or maybe even correct, but I knock Faulk down because he’s an idiot. And AP hardly ever caught a ball and was not the pass protection guy Thurman was. Yes, I’m biased. Expand No those are legitimate arguments... peterson is a great runner but he isn’t lightyears ahead of Thurman. add in Thurmans receiving and blocking and he is wayyy more a complete back
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:33 AM, Buffalo716 said: Yup. My point was how well rounded Thurman was... You can make the case he was the Engine that kept the K gun running... he did everything for the Bills i don’t think he’s the best but being as well rounded and versatile as he is pushes him up the list imo give him 4000 Carries like Emmitt and he has the rushing title Expand The difference between these all time great RBs is razor thin.
Augie Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:35 AM, Buffalo716 said: No those are legitimate arguments... peterson is a great runner but he isn’t lightyears ahead of Thurman. add in Thurmans receiving and blocking and he is wayyy more a complete back Expand There’s a reason Barry didn't Start sooner in college. A really, really GOOD reason to keep a HOF RB on the bench. 2 1
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 I wonder how we judge running backs when we get into the conversation about receiving and blocking along with running. Obviously, those are important, but I would bet that a lot of that is going to be scheme related. Very hard to judge.
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:37 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: The difference between these all time great RBs is razor thin. Expand Yes thank you that was another point of mine... my friend is a hockey player at heart not football i tried saying that just because I’m saying Thurman was better than Emmitt in no way am I knocking Emmitt... all these first ballad RBs are legends and are sooo close respectively. You can’t say with a straight face that Sweetness was better than Barry they are both legends and it’s more a preference of style
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