1st&ten Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think it's much a more about coaching than players. The example I always give about two generals with armies of 100,000 soldiers. I don't care at all which general has the best soldier, or the ten best soldiers, or even the 100 best soldiers. I want the best general. Why is it that when Cordy Glen goes down, Dawkins steps in and does fine? Two reasons: (1), the difference in talent is miniscule. They're both big, strong guys in their physical primes. Compared to all of the men in the world their age, they are in the top one tenth of one percent and size and physical ability, and the difference between them isn't great. (2) They aren't asked to do things they can't. They're just asked to execute physical maneuvers efficiently and consistently. When you have good athletes, they all can do that IF they're taught properly and they haev the work ethic to become excellent at executing things that aren't beyond their abilities. Do you want the BEST offensive tackle? Sure, but that's icing the cake. Teams win with lots of average guys just - are you ready, all you Belichick fans? - doing their job. The coaches know what they want the players to to do, and they get them to do it consistently. Once you have decent NFL talent, it all about coaching and character. Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man that leads that gains the victory-----George S. Patton
Inigo Montoya Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) The character issue is important. How much a player's on field talent will mitigate their character issues in McDermott's judgement is anyone's guess. What is clearly evident after watching McDermott's team is that whatever he is doing, it seems to be working. This team is much more disciplined. I don't spend every Sunday screaming at the TV over the latest, ridiculous, unnecessary, and costly penalty committed by an undisciplined Buffalo Bill that costs the team dearly. I hope he continues to find players that fit his "process". So far it seems to be working. Edited April 12, 2018 by Inigo Montoya
K-9 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So I like mayfield as an option but it is funny seeing people refer to Rosen’s privileged upbringing and not mayfield’s. If it makes a difference at all. But somehow it’s escaped mayfield’s narrative. Somehow Rosen is the only one who doesn’t “ need” football baker: hold my beer (while I am fed grapes) http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/17284078/oklahoma-sooners-qb-baker-mayfield-used-defying-critics lamar is the one with the helicopter parent. Baker: hold my beer https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/sports/college/baker-mayfield-dad-told-mack-brown-his-son-was-better-than-texas-scholarship-qbs/ba4aTQzmU8ekBkgemikswN/amp.html rosen had concussions. Baker: hold my beer http://m.newsok.com/article/5488431 Rosen was a pain to his coaches early on and know him best. We should listen to them. Baker: hold my beer https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/oklahoma-sooners-tcu-horned-frogs-gary-patterson-baker-mayfield-fires-back-122915 But Rosen is doing interviews and talking about himself! Baker: hold my beer https://behindbaker.com/ Interesting. If his dad is that much of a pain, he will most likely be a factor in the interview process.
Shaw66 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man that leads that gains the victory-----George S. Patton Right. It's the talent of the leader and the character of the men. 1
Bills Freak Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I dont think it is that ridiculous considering some of the comments made about Rosen and I have no idea why you would think the poster has "bias" against Rosen. I think their evaluations are done on a more personal level. Beane has stated how he need to interview prospects to get to know them. I don't think the "opinions" of writers & bloggers influence their character evaluations. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: The character issue is important. How much a player's on field talent will mitigate their character issues in McDermott's judgement is anyone's guess. What is clearly evident after watching McDermott's team is that whatever he is doing, it seems to be working. This team is much more disciplined. I don't spend every Sunday screaming at the TV over the latest, ridiculous, unnecessary, and costly penalty committed by an undisciplined Buffalo Bill that costs the team dearly. I hope he continues to find players that fit his "process". So far it seems to be working. ...confused as to why OBD & the Bills can't set terms and conditions of employment much the same as our employers do....why not?.....obviously contracts/guaranteed money change the dynamic, but isn't the basic premise the same?....
Chicken Boo Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Again I have never brought politics into talking about Rosen. Not one post about that at all when talking about Rosen. I talk about the crap Rosen spews out of his mouth and on his social media. If you think he’s a Process Bills type of QB. I have some beach front property I want to sell you in Nevada. Your living in a dream world if you think the Bills will draft that Jack azz. By that some token, you're severely misguided if you think Mayfield is on the Bills radar.
MrEpsYtown Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So I like mayfield as an option but it is funny seeing people refer to Rosen’s privileged upbringing and not mayfield’s. If it makes a difference at all. But somehow it’s escaped mayfield’s narrative. Somehow Rosen is the only one who doesn’t “ need” football baker: hold my beer (while I am fed grapes) http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/17284078/oklahoma-sooners-qb-baker-mayfield-used-defying-critics lamar is the one with the helicopter parent. Baker: hold my beer https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/sports/college/baker-mayfield-dad-told-mack-brown-his-son-was-better-than-texas-scholarship-qbs/ba4aTQzmU8ekBkgemikswN/amp.html rosen had concussions. Baker: hold my beer http://m.newsok.com/article/5488431 Rosen was a pain to his coaches early on and know him best. We should listen to them. Baker: hold my beer https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/oklahoma-sooners-tcu-horned-frogs-gary-patterson-baker-mayfield-fires-back-122915 But Rosen is doing interviews and talking about himself! Baker: hold my beer https://behindbaker.com/ You sir have won this thread. Good stuff and very mich to the point. Thank you
SouthNYfan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Sky Diver said: Huh, what did Nick Saban say anything bad about Rosen? Did I miss something? You made an entire thread about it. So stop playing dumb. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/203890-sabans-response-to-rosens-comments-regarding-the-demands-of-college-football/
Sky Diver Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: You made an entire thread about it. So stop playing dumb. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/203890-sabans-response-to-rosens-comments-regarding-the-demands-of-college-football/ So. Where did Nick Saban say anything bad about Rosen? Can you point it out to me?
HomeskillitMoorman Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 The character thing is only thrown out there when it's convenient. They had no problem signing a PED guy like Trent Murphy because it filled a need. 1
SouthNYfan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: So. Where did Nick Saban say anything bad about Rosen? Can you point it out to me? The entire point of your thread was saban not agreeing with Rosen, then you badmouthing Rosen about it.
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