RiotAct Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Watkins 4th..... hahahahahahahahahahaha ((breathes)) hahahahahahaaaa 1
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I think Landry is very underrated. Extremely productive and has fantastic hands. Good for Cleveland. He's an overpaid slot receiver.
TheElectricCompany Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) It's not a bad deal. They have a ton of cap space and Landry is very productive. The market has spoken and great receivers are getting 14-15 million. His best football may be ahead. Dolphins have always used him in that quick route slot role. Maybe the Browns can send him more than 10 yards down the field? Edited April 12, 2018 by TheElectricCompany
HappyDays Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: These comparisons always fall short. Every year the cap goes up by $10 million. They should really be comparing "percentage of salary cap at time of signing" but I've never found anyone that tracks that. 2
Epstein's Mother Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This guy is really hard to root for. I would not be excited if I were a Brown's fan. 1
Mat68 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's an overpaid slot receiver. Does it matter where he is lined up if he catches 100 passes a year no matter who his Qb is?
HansLanda Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Would have been more awesome if it was for Landry Jones!
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Mat68 said: Does it matter where he is lined up if he catches 100 passes a year no matter who his Qb is? 8.8 YPC is not worth $15M per season. He requires no special attention from opposing defenses. 1
Spiderweb Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 New GM... Talks tough but still the same old Browns in the end. Way too much $$$ for Landry
Mat68 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 8.8 YPC is not worth $15M per season. He requires no special attention from opposing defenses. That was playing with Matt Moore and Jay Cutler. Career he is over 10 YPC and very similar to Welker in his prime in that department.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Mat68 said: That was playing with Matt Moore and Jay Cutler. Career he is over 10 YPC and very similar to Welker in his prime in that department. Wow! 10 YPC!
Mat68 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Wow! 10 YPC! Best slot reciever of all time averaged 10. Landry is doing that with spotty qbs. Landry is not top 5 right now but he is better than Watkins, and you cant name 10 wrs more productive than him.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Best slot reciever of all time averaged 10. Landry is doing that with spotty qbs. Landry is not top 5 right now but he is better than Watkins, and you cant name 10 wrs more productive than him. He's overpaid no matter how you try to spin it. No one is disputing the fact that he's a good player who produces based on volume.
Mat68 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's overpaid no matter how you try to spin it. No one is disputing the fact that he's a good player who produces based on volume. Lead the league in catches 4th in Tds. He is 5th in money seems about right when Julio and Becham will reup soon.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Mat68 said: Lead the league in catches 4th in Tds. He is 5th in money seems about right when Julio and Becham will reup soon. Watkins had 9 TDs on 39 catches last season which is the same as Landry on 112 catches. Overpaid slot receiver who does not dictate coverage. 1
cle23 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: This is why Miami was right to trade him. You're paying $15M for a possession receiver; he's now making more money than AJ Green, Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Alshon Jeffery, all of whom are better players. You can have him Cleveland. Dez Bryant is average at best, and Jeffery isn't elite by any means.
thebandit27 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Watkins had 9 TDs on 39 catches last season which is the same as Landry on 112 catches. Overpaid slot receiver who does not dictate coverage. Not just catches, look at targets when assessing Landry. He gets 10 targets per game, and ranked tied for 3rd in the NFL in targets in 2017. There are 33 receivers that had at least 100 targets last year, and among them Landry ranks: 17th in yards 6th in TDs 30th in yards/catch (the 3 guys that ranked behind him were Jack Doyle--a TE--and RBs L. Bell and C. McCaffrey) 31st in targeted air yards average 7th in 1st downs 7th in YAC 5th in catch %age So what you're paying high-end WR1 money for is a guy that catches a high percentage of his passes, does so almost exclusively near the LOS, and is able to move the sticks with YAC and be effective in the red zone. Is that worth WR1 money? If so, then Adam Thielen is going to get paid when he's up for a contract, because his numbers are quite similar, except that his targeted air yards average is nearly twice that of Landry. 8 minutes ago, cle23 said: Dez Bryant is average at best, and Jeffery isn't elite by any means. Correct...but they're better players than Landry. They do more with fewer targets; Jeffery had the same number of TDs and 16 fewer first down conversions on 40 fewer targets, and his yards/reception figure was over 50% greater than Landry's. Landry puts up numbers because they force feed him the ball.
Mr. WEO Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, cle23 said: Dez Bryant is average at best, and Jeffery isn't elite by any means. Not even "Gilmore elite"?
Boatdrinks Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Best slot reciever of all time averaged 10. Landry is doing that with spotty qbs. Landry is not top 5 right now but he is better than Watkins, and you cant name 10 wrs more productive than him. Landry is not as good a WR as Watkins. He's a slot guy the Browns decided to pay like a #1. With a QB who won't throw over the middle !
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