K D Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 This could be good or it could be bad. In this scenario, if Giants then take Darnold then the only top qb left will be Rosen and he could go at 5 to the Broncos if nobody wants to trade with us. Or it could be good if Giants don't take a QB as then one of the top 2 QB's will be available for us. Or it could be really good if the Giants and Broncos pass on QB's. Then we would have our choice. Yes, I realize some people will say "those aren't the top 2 guys, I like Mayfield." Well the fact remains that these are ranked by most people as the 2 top QB's and they don't have the question marks that Mayfield (size) and Allen (accuracy) have. Very interesting. Can't wait to see how this all plays out! 1
Jay_Fixit Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 People should believe Ghosthunters before they believe pre draft “leaks.” 6 1
BillsFan17 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 How do you keep people sucked in leading up to the draft... you keep churning out rumors. 1
BillsMafioso Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Mark my words. Allen will fall. Browns, Jets, Broncos all head coaches on the hot seat out surely this year if their new QB doesn’t show significant progress in year 1. Plus, Browns flopped on QB so many times, doubt John Dorsey is interested in maintaining that reputation. The Allen smokescreen makes sense. Also, if you follow Mock Drafts very year, you should know Mel Kipers is consistently one of the least accurate mocks every year. Edited April 11, 2018 by BillsMafioso
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, BillsMafioso said: Mark my words. Allen will fall. Browns, Jets, Broncos all head coaches on the hot seat out surely this year if their new QB doesn’t show significant progress in year 1. Plus, Browns flopped on QB so many times, doubt John Dorsey is interested in maintaining that reputation. The Allen smokescreen makes sense. Also, if you follow Movk Drafts very year, you should know Mel Kipers is consistently one of the least accurate mocks every year OK, marking your words. 1
thenorthremembers Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsMafioso said: Mark my words. Allen will fall. Browns, Jets, Broncos all head coaches on the hot seat out surely this year if their new QB doesn’t show significant progress in year 1. Plus, Browns flopped on QB so many times, doubt John Dorsey is interested in maintaining that reputation. The Allen smokescreen makes sense. Also, if you follow Mock Drafts very year, you should know Mel Kipers is consistently one of the least accurate mocks every year. Can I ask a question that always comes to mind when I read something like this: What advantage does it give the team drafting #1 to create smokescreens? How does this help them at all? I 100% believe Allen is their number one quarterback. He is the exact model of what Dorsey and Jackson have looked for in quarterbacks. But seriously, the #1 pick smokescreen? 1
Dr. Who Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Can I ask a question that always comes to mind when I read something like this: What advantage does it give the team drafting #1 to create smokescreens? How does this help them at all? I 100% believe Allen is their number one quarterback. He is the exact model of what Dorsey and Jackson have looked for in quarterbacks. But seriously, the #1 pick smokescreen? The only thing I can imagine is if Browns think the Giants want the player and could switch places and pick up an extra pick. Unlikely, of course.
DCOrange Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, BillsMafioso said: Mark my words. Allen will fall. Browns, Jets, Broncos all head coaches on the hot seat out surely this year if their new QB doesn’t show significant progress in year 1. Plus, Browns flopped on QB so many times, doubt John Dorsey is interested in maintaining that reputation. The Allen smokescreen makes sense. Also, if you follow Mock Drafts very year, you should know Mel Kipers is consistently one of the least accurate mocks every year. The QBs drafted by those three teams aren't even expected to play their rookie season besides MAYBE the Jets. I don't think the QBs they target have anything to do with coaches being on hot seats. 14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Can I ask a question that always comes to mind when I read something like this: What advantage does it give the team drafting #1 to create smokescreens? How does this help them at all? I 100% believe Allen is their number one quarterback. He is the exact model of what Dorsey and Jackson have looked for in quarterbacks. But seriously, the #1 pick smokescreen? Theoretically they could be trying to drive up interest in the #4 pick by making it seem like Allen is a can't-miss prospect. I ultimately think they'll keep both of their picks though.
Antonio Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Can I ask a question that always comes to mind when I read something like this: What advantage does it give the team drafting #1 to create smokescreens? How does this help them at all? I 100% believe Allen is their number one quarterback. He is the exact model of what Dorsey and Jackson have looked for in quarterbacks. But seriously, the #1 pick smokescreen? They also have the no. 4 pick, so they are really saying that so another club panics when they don´t draft QB at 1.
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Even though it is the 11th is it too late for the Browns to be interested in Olaf Pilor?
jr1 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Mayfield has the Namath swag. I can definitely see him there
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, jr1 said: Mayfield has the Namath swag. I can definitely see him there And Namath was a overated QB taking his carrer records into account.
BrotherChazz Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 The Giants like Darnold, so if he's there, they likely pick him. If the Browns take Allen, it's much more likely QB's go 1, 2, 3 without another trade. Puts us in a really touch spot, especially if the Brows won't trade out of 4. And Denver could take QB too.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BrotherChazz said: The Giants like Darnold, so if he's there, they likely pick him. If the Browns take Allen, it's much more likely QB's go 1, 2, 3 without another trade. Puts us in a really touch spot, especially if the Brows won't trade out of 4. And Denver could take QB too. Based on draft insiders. Who knows what's truth. Browns may be spreading that info so a team that wants Darnold pays a ransom for the #1 pick because they know they can get Allen at 4.
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 This is a cluster f***. I am wavering. We should have over paid a bit and at least gotten to three, with then having a more reasonable option to pay pimp fees to the NYG if they wanted to threaten giving up #2 to somebody else. ...I'm just so tired of all this.
BillnutinHouston Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 52 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: People should believe Ghosthunters before they believe pre draft “leaks.” Are you saying that when Ghost Hunters plays audio of pure static and the host swears he heard a disembodied ghost voice screaming "get out of here and take your buddy with you!", you only hear static?
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 58 minutes ago, kdiggz said: This could be good or it could be bad. In this scenario, if Giants then take Darnold then the only top qb left will be Rosen and he could go at 5 to the Broncos if nobody wants to trade with us. Or it could be good if Giants don't take a QB as then one of the top 2 QB's will be available for us. Or it could be really good if the Giants and Broncos pass on QB's. Then we would have our choice. Yes, I realize some people will say "those aren't the top 2 guys, I like Mayfield." Well the fact remains that these are ranked by most people as the 2 top QB's and they don't have the question marks that Mayfield (size) and Allen (accuracy) have. Very interesting. Can't wait to see how this all plays out! I'm seeing it as really really good. Let's say for the sake of argument the rumor mill is right. I easily see the draft like this: 1. Allen 2. Chubb 3. Mayfield 4. Possible trade/Barkley/Fitzpatrick 5. Nelson 6. Nelson/Chubb//Barkely/trade 7. Trade spot Minimum 3 spots to jump up potentially. 1 QB off the board I wouldn't want anyway in Allen. The biggest worry I have in this scenario is a team like the Cards jumping up here to snag a QB. Minimum of one of Darnold/Rosen stand a real chance of sliding right to easy range for us. Love it.
Buffalo03 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Mayfield vs Rosen would be a sweet rivalry for many years to come no matter which player plays where. Almost like a new Kelly vs Marino rivalry 1
Pete Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Quenton Martin and Sanquan Barkley are probably the two best players in this draft. There is a good chance neither goes top 5. What a bargain for whomever drafts them!
Misterbluesky Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 1:00 PM, No Place To Hyde said: I'm seeing it as really really good. Let's say for the sake of argument the rumor mill is right. I easily see the draft like this: 1. Allen 2. Chubb 3. Mayfield 4. Possible trade/Barkley/Fitzpatrick 5. Nelson 6. Nelson/Chubb//Barkely/trade 7. Trade spot Minimum 3 spots to jump up potentially. 1 QB off the board I wouldn't want anyway in Allen. The biggest worry I have in this scenario is a team like the Cards jumping up here to snag a QB. Minimum of one of Darnold/Rosen stand a real chance of sliding right to easy range for us. Love it. I said it before and will say it again..Allen and Mayfield are built to play in the northeast or midwest...but both are one year projects.p.s.- I love Allen's quick release..quick bullet like.
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