Gugny Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Obviously, the Eric Wood situation could not be helped. Injuries happen and thank God he's been forced to retire, rather than put himself in harm's way. But the recent developments surrounding Incognito's abrupt retirement make me wonder ... Did Beane lowball Incognito in an effort to make him quit? Now that we've got a decimated O Line - AND an obvious need for a QB - my greatest fear is that this was choreographed by Beane in order to force Lamar Jackson onto McDermott. With our current situation, an "exciting playmaking" QB who relies on his legs is the only type of QB who could possibly succeed with the O Line we're going to field. McCarron is going to get killed back there. Jackson seems to be a Bills fan favorite (not mine) and A LOT of Bills fans were pissed about trading Tyrod away. This would please a lot (perhaps majority) of the fan base. I don't think McDermott liked Tyrod and I can't see him wanting Jackson. But he wants to win games more than sell tickets. Maybe Beane sees Jackson as a way to accomplish both. As the title states - this is pure speculation/guessing on my part. But it's my biggest fear and I hope it's not the case. Either way, I'll keep trusting the process. Go Bills. 2 1 4 1
Foxx Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 and here i thought i was the conspiracy theorist. 1 4
Bangarang Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 What if Beane hates McCoy and decimated our o-line so he’d retire too? ? 2 3
Cripple Creek Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, Bangarang said: What if Beane hates McCoy and decimated our o-line so he’d retire too? ? oh crap 1
liverpoolkev Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 I hope so, Jackson is by far the better prospect 1
The Wiz Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I have a hard time thinking a GM would intentionally make a HC do poorly since it would reflect as much on the GM that drafted the player. The whole ej, Marrone, Whaley "fire me" incident comes to mind. Not saying Jackson would do it but don't think he's the type of player that MCD/daboll wants to run his offense. Edited April 10, 2018 by The Wiz
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 I don’t think that’s the case. I think Jackson/Rudolph are potential options. I don’t think that it’s some conspiracy theory; they just happen to be the top guys available by the time that the Bills pick. Incognito retiring created one more hole on an already bad roster. I don’t think that it changes their plans but it may slightly alter the price that they are willing to pay. If that’s the case the odds of Jackson/Rudolph probably increases some. 1
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: Obviously, the Eric Wood situation could not be helped. Injuries happen and thank God he's been forced to retire, rather than put himself in harm's way. But the recent developments surrounding Incognito's abrupt retirement make me wonder ... Did Beane lowball Incognito in an effort to make him quit? Now that we've got a decimated O Line - AND an obvious need for a QB - my greatest fear is that this was choreographed by Beane in order to force Lamar Jackson onto McDermott. With our current situation, an "exciting playmaking" QB who relies on his legs is the only type of QB who could possibly succeed with the O Line we're going to field. McCarron is going to get killed back there. Jackson seems to be a Bills fan favorite (not mine) and A LOT of Bills fans were pissed about trading Tyrod away. This would please a lot (perhaps majority) of the fan base. I don't think McDermott liked Tyrod and I can't see him wanting Jackson. But he wants to win games more than sell tickets. Maybe Beane sees Jackson as a way to accomplish both. As the title states - this is pure speculation/guessing on my part. But it's my biggest fear and I hope it's not the case. Either way, I'll keep trusting the process. Go Bills. 4
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: I hope so, Jackson is by far the better prospect As a wide receiver? 2
OldTimer1960 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: Obviously, the Eric Wood situation could not be helped. Injuries happen and thank God he's been forced to retire, rather than put himself in harm's way. But the recent developments surrounding Incognito's abrupt retirement make me wonder ... Did Beane lowball Incognito in an effort to make him quit? Now that we've got a decimated O Line - AND an obvious need for a QB - my greatest fear is that this was choreographed by Beane in order to force Lamar Jackson onto McDermott. With our current situation, an "exciting playmaking" QB who relies on his legs is the only type of QB who could possibly succeed with the O Line we're going to field. McCarron is going to get killed back there. Jackson seems to be a Bills fan favorite (not mine) and A LOT of Bills fans were pissed about trading Tyrod away. This would please a lot (perhaps majority) of the fan base. I don't think McDermott liked Tyrod and I can't see him wanting Jackson. But he wants to win games more than sell tickets. Maybe Beane sees Jackson as a way to accomplish both. As the title states - this is pure speculation/guessing on my part. But it's my biggest fear and I hope it's not the case. Either way, I'll keep trusting the process. Go Bills. Beane has been spotted at Area 51 and claims he was abducted by "alien beings". That isn't even as wild a theory as the above. 2
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Gugny said: Obviously, the Eric Wood situation could not be helped. Injuries happen and thank God he's been forced to retire, rather than put himself in harm's way. But the recent developments surrounding Incognito's abrupt retirement make me wonder ... Did Beane lowball Incognito in an effort to make him quit? Now that we've got a decimated O Line - AND an obvious need for a QB - my greatest fear is that this was choreographed by Beane in order to force Lamar Jackson onto McDermott. With our current situation, an "exciting playmaking" QB who relies on his legs is the only type of QB who could possibly succeed with the O Line we're going to field. McCarron is going to get killed back there. Jackson seems to be a Bills fan favorite (not mine) and A LOT of Bills fans were pissed about trading Tyrod away. This would please a lot (perhaps majority) of the fan base. I don't think McDermott liked Tyrod and I can't see him wanting Jackson. But he wants to win games more than sell tickets. Maybe Beane sees Jackson as a way to accomplish both. As the title states - this is pure speculation/guessing on my part. But it's my biggest fear and I hope it's not the case. Either way, I'll keep trusting the process. Go Bills. Pretty out there Gug....even for you. It would not be the end of the world if we took Jackson and kept our picks....its not my plan A....but hey things happen.. 1 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I think you’re on to something, but it’s a much more incideous plot. He gained the the team’s confidence with a playoff nod while setting up the real tank in 2018 through 2022. They will continue trading back while ultimately amassing 11 first and 11 second round picks in 2023.... right after they chose not to Renew the lease in Buffalo they will move the team to San Diego and then draft an entire starting offensive and defensive line up and the menical plan will be complete ? Edited April 10, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood
KHAN Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Gugny said: But the recent developments surrounding Incognito's abrupt retirement make me wonder ... Did Beane lowball Incognito in an effort to make him quit? Now that we've got a decimated O Line - AND an obvious need for a QB - my greatest fear is that this was choreographed by Beane in order to force Lamar Jackson onto McDermott. 1 1
stony Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Gugny said: Obviously, the Eric Wood situation could not be helped. Injuries happen and thank God he's been forced to retire, rather than put himself in harm's way. But the recent developments surrounding Incognito's abrupt retirement make me wonder ... Did Beane lowball Incognito in an effort to make him quit? Now that we've got a decimated O Line - AND an obvious need for a QB - my greatest fear is that this was choreographed by Beane in order to force Lamar Jackson onto McDermott. With our current situation, an "exciting playmaking" QB who relies on his legs is the only type of QB who could possibly succeed with the O Line we're going to field. McCarron is going to get killed back there. Jackson seems to be a Bills fan favorite (not mine) and A LOT of Bills fans were pissed about trading Tyrod away. This would please a lot (perhaps majority) of the fan base. I don't think McDermott liked Tyrod and I can't see him wanting Jackson. But he wants to win games more than sell tickets. Maybe Beane sees Jackson as a way to accomplish both. As the title states - this is pure speculation/guessing on my part. But it's my biggest fear and I hope it's not the case. Either way, I'll keep trusting the process. Go Bills. Unfortunately, this will be the first talking point said about any team that drafts Jackson during the live draft broadcast. 1
PIZ Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I think McBeane loves Josh Rosen, but I think they like Jackson and Rudolph a lot more than the experts at TBD do. Edited April 10, 2018 by PIZ
MTBill Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 I think they love Jackson/Rudolph and keeping draft picks much more than they like Rosen/Mayfield/Allen and a decimated set of draft picks. I also think - the Media will kill them for it because the team did not do what THEY think is in the best interest. As will a segment of fans.
T-Bomb Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Jackson is garbage, they better not do all this trading for draft capital and wind up with garbage... 1
timekills17 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I want to hear more about the incideous, menical stuff. Each day on here I learn more amazing facts, gain valuable insight into the field of psychology and mind reading, and discover new words I didn't even know existed. And to think this is the offseason! Edited April 10, 2018 by timekills17 2 2
starrymessenger Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 I like Lamar but his detractors need not be concerned. He is not the target. Beane would not have been trying to move up to the 3 spot to draft Jackson.
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