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  On 4/10/2018 at 6:23 PM, Misterbluesky said:

That would be a very,very bad idea. The players around the league would find out about this...if you think it's tough to get fa's in here now..it would get worse.And do you think the Pegulas give to boots about 1 million dollars?

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Literally every team would do this

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This is, indeed, unfortunate but may turn out to be a blessing in disguise.  With an additional major need to fill we cannot afford to give away the house to move up for one of the highly rated quarterbacks.  We can still get a decent prospect to develop with all the talent out there this year. Also, bringing in a good young guard for a number of years is necessary since RI was only going to be around for one more year at the max.  And Richie did slip a bit last year, portending a further decline if he played this year.   

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  On 4/10/2018 at 6:30 PM, Misterbluesky said:

You don't sue over 1 million bucks..and you really don't think players around the league wouldn't find out? 

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Yea and those players around the league deserve that money back in the free agent pool, not Ritchie’s pocket

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  On 4/10/2018 at 6:35 PM, Formerly Allan in MD said:

This is, indeed, unfortunate but may turn out to be a blessing in disguise.  With an additional major need to fill we cannot afford to give away the house to move up for one of the highly rated quarterbacks.  We can still get a decent prospect to develop with all the talent out there this year. Also, bringing in a good young guard for a number of years is necessary since RI was only going to be around for one more year at the max.  And Richie did slip a bit last year, portending a further decline if he played this year.   

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we are moving up, no player is going to stop this process and guards aren't hard to find.

 

 

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There are so many holes in this roster now, with the dumping of talent last season and preseason and the losses since the season ended--they are down three starters in the o-line alone--that Beane is going to have trouble assembling an adequate roster despite his eleventy-seven wonderful draft choices and increased cap space.

 

If there is a "process" at all, it's going to take at least a season to bring in and coach all these new faces, and have a shot at increasing the overall talent level of the team. It's good and necessary for the team to get younger, and it's too early to guess how good they will be next fall, but as of now I will be surprised if they come near winning nine games next season. 

 

 

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Thanks Richie wait until free agency has dried up then retire WTF? Wonder if he received any up front cash for signing the contract?  

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  On 4/10/2018 at 2:19 PM, End The Drought said:

His twitter has been really strange the past few days. 

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He displays signs of manic at times. That said, I wish him the best- 11 years in the trenches and 4 in college plus HS etc... why not get out while you can still function?

 

This new news can definitely change our draft strategy and it may be a blessing in disguise. The Bills may be forced to hold all draft capital, grab bpa or qb at 12 then build from there. We may even see the Bills slide out of 12 and move down for extra picks- who knows.

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  On 4/10/2018 at 6:36 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

 guards aren't hard to find.

 

 

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Name them. 

Cause there were four good (and I think not anywhere near the RI class) interior lineman signed this offseason and they could have gone anywhere. Average price for a quality guard/center is starts at $10,000,000. 

If you want crappy interior line play, well there wasn't any competition to get Bodine. And to that ends, I dunno, but I'm thinking our HoF running back might disagree with you. Just a little bit.

For what it's worth, here's the deal on Weston. The Giants called him a bust. Five years, $47,500,000. 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/weston-richburg-14452/

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  On 4/10/2018 at 6:38 PM, Dr. K said:

There are so many holes in this roster now, with the dumping of talent last season and preseason and the losses since the season ended--they are down three starters in the o-line alone--that Beane is going to have trouble assembling an adequate roster despite his eleventy-seven wonderful draft choices and increased cap space.

 

If there is a "process" at all, it's going to take at least a season to bring in and coach all these new faces, and have a shot at increasing the overall talent level of the team. It's good and necessary for the team to get younger, and it's too early to guess how good they will be next fall, but as of now I will be surprised if they come near winning nine games next season. 

 

 

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This.

 

I am super optimistic about this team's future, Doc.  I also still have no problem with them trading up and I will stick by my thread as the Bills being division champs in 2019.  

 

However, no way do I want our 2019 first rounder to be on the table.  I love my Bills, but that really may be a top 10 pick.

 

 

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  On 4/10/2018 at 6:26 PM, Tyrod's friend said:

Five years, $66.5M

Five years, $45.0M

Four years, $42.0M

Five years, $48M


That last guy? His team thought he was a bust, apparently. And none of these guys, none of them, had the pedigree of Richie Incognito.


Sure. It's easy to replace a Pro Bowl Guard. You can ask the Giants. It isn't easy, and it certainly isn't cheap. If you want to replace your Pro Bowl or nearly Pro Bowl level interior lineman (Wood) with players that have been ranked as severely below replacement level (Bodine) and who's fans celebrate their leaving?

Not a problem at all. Unfortunately, I value offensive lineman and think that jacksh!t doesn't happen til they block.
 

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QB > OG

 

Are we really having this conversation!

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He waited until after FA to screw the Bills who were screwing Wood.  Somebody needs to be power slammed through a burning table.   

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  On 4/10/2018 at 7:02 PM, Chicken Boo said:

 

QB > OG

 

Are we really having this conversation!

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I'm ready. 
Point out to me anyplace where I have even remotely suggested that we not go after a QB or that I've said that an OG is anywhere near the value of a team to a QB.

You are the only one having that conversation, Chicken. There are roughly six, possibly as many as seven QBs that are not terribly different in Grades. You just blew a hole in your offensive line, with a bandaid called Bodine that was meant to cover the last hole. All I am saying, all I've ever said, is that at this point, there are priorities. You can get a roughly equivilant talent for QB in the second round that you can get at 12 or even 22. Don't take my word for it; read Gunnar's analysis. Look at the ranking at NFL.com. I'm not making this sh!t up. There simply isn't that much difference between a lot of these guys and you'll be passing on nearly all of the Tier One positional talent available this year. And just to make sure everyone knows, this isn't JUST THE YEAR OF THE QB. There's a ton of other good players here. 

I've never said NOT to move up, but the world has changed this morning. If you can simply give Richie $1.25 MM or $2.5 MM and make this problem go away, I'd support that decision by 1BD. In a heart beat.

End of the day, sit at 12 or nearly so. If by some miracle Sam Darnold/Josh Rosen/Baker Mayfield you bust the move. But #2 should be out of the conversation at this point.

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Richie entering life insurance business.  First client is AJ McCarron.  He is going to need a good policy. 

 

  On 4/10/2018 at 7:32 PM, Captain Murica said:

 

This seems off to me. 

 

 

 

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That is off.  Who goes to Newark on purpose?

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  On 4/10/2018 at 7:32 PM, Irv said:

Richie entering life insurance business.  First client is AJ McCarron.  He is going to need a good policy. 

 

 

That is off.  Who goes to Newark on purpose?

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Goes to Newark and allows their mom to live there? All the while daring someone to see them? 

 

Those three things seem troubling. 

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