FBI Raids Office of Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

Of course... now the TakeYouToTrumper/DelusionalRINO types will need to find some other way to disguise their true message: "This is either an investigation into Hillary Pizzagate Deep State, or it's a witch hunt with no merit -- either way Trump good, Hillary bad! Trump good! Hillary bad! <tears swell> T-T-Trump g-g-g-good!!! <tears are just streaming down their bulbous cheeks at this point> H-H-H-Hill-Hillary.... b-bad! <full nervous breakdown>"

 

LET'S BE REAL — There is not a "both sides are equally guilty" to everything. Republicans/Conservatives are frauds, liars, hypocrites -- they only want to see "their team" win, and would happily sacrifice the rest of us to get that. Now you're seeing them (Tasker included) threaten violence because they don't personally like this criminal investigation.

 

Did Tasker threaten "civil war" when the FBI was investigating Hillary's emails? Did he threaten civil war when Congress demanded public release for virtually every email Hillary sent during her time as Secretary of State? 

 

These people are FULL OF IT, and they haven't been consistent on anything since AT LEAST the 1980s. 

 

There are no Republican intellectuals anymore. That's why they have no identity, no soul, no ideas. They are in it for vanity. Trump might as well be a tackier Kardashian (which is saying something). John Bolton is a goofy idiot from TV, and he's only one of SEVEN people Trump has put into power simply because they were pundits on Fox News.

 

Amen! 

[Deranged Rhino]

Applauding tribalism and divide and conquer techniques... that's why you're gator. 

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Applauding tribalism and divide and conquer techniques... that's why you're gator. 

Oh don't be down. There will be another conspiracy theory that will come along that you can ignorantly promote. Hannity will have another one for you soon, I'm sure. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Conspiracy?

 

Says the guy who's breathlessly pushed a collusion conspiracy (despite having zero evidence) while relying on liberal echo chambers to reinforce his belief despite the absence of proof. 

 

Look in the mirror, gator. You've been the king of conspiracy for over a year despite my best efforts.

 

[LA Grant]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

Conspiracy?

 

Says the guy who's breathlessly pushed a collusion conspiracy (despite having zero evidence) while relying on liberal echo chambers to reinforce his belief despite the absence of proof. 

 

Look in the mirror, gator. You've been the king of conspiracy for over a year despite my best efforts.

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

Please show me the evidence for collusion, LA Asshat... I'll wait.

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Conspiracy?

 

Says the guy who's breathlessly pushed a collusion conspiracy (despite having zero evidence) while relying on liberal echo chambers to reinforce his belief despite the absence of proof. 

 

Look in the mirror, gator. You've been the king of conspiracy for over a year despite my best efforts.

 

Yes, and Robert Mueller is a figment of my imagination! 

 

Nice trick though, accuse others of what you are totally guilty of. 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Mueller isn't evidence of collusion. Try again.  

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Mueller isn't evidence of collusion. Try again.  

No dumb ass, he is investigating that. He is looking into the evidence, like the Trump Tower meeting, for instance. You are running on empty now 

[Buffalo_Gal]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No dumb ass, he is investigating that. He is looking into the evidence, like the Trump Tower meeting, for instance. You are running on empty now 

And that little episode yesterday basically proves he's got nada. 

When you overreach your authority, when you resort to process crimes to "prove" your worth, you got nuthin'. 
 

[row_33]

Russia, oops that wents away

Bimbos, same

Payoffs, here we go again

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No dumb ass, he is investigating that. He is looking into the evidence, like the Trump Tower meeting, for instance. You are running on empty now 

 

You're shifting now... you've been saying since the beginning the collusion is real to the point of Trump being a Putin plant. 

 

After a year, you must have some evidence of this. LA Asshat already ran away from the question because he has the intellectual courage of wet paper bag... here are just a few of your posts:

 

On 5/18/2017 at 6:58 AM, Tiberius said:

And they deserve to have their compromised person in a position to view all our national security secrets.

 

Glad you love the Russians

 

On 5/18/2017 at 7:12 AM, Tiberius said:

So having a mole/spy/compromised person in WH is no big deal.

 

You guys love the Republican party, not the USA

 

On 6/13/2017 at 6:51 AM, Tiberius said:

You forgot that Nixon ordered CIA to tell FBI to stop investigation when the money trail was leading too close to the WH. Now we don't know where the money trail leads, but that's being looked at and Trump is obviously nervous. He's also nervous about Flynn.

 

If Trump is tied to/compromised/being black mailed/ or is an agent of Russia, then this is ten times worse than Watergate.

 

On 6/15/2017 at 6:00 AM, Tiberius said:

Which of course has to raise eyebrows about what he is hiding about Russia

 

On 6/21/2017 at 10:02 AM, Tiberius said:

So Mueller might be looking into Trump, organized crime and Russia money laundering.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock

 

 

Funny how all of this has turned out to be speculation without proof, evidence, or confirmation... yet you continue to believe it. Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me - and trust me, I know one when I see one. 

[LA Grant]

22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Please show me the evidence for collusion, LA Asshat... I'll wait.

 

Oh sweetie.

 

You're like a figure of Greek myth. The Rhino who loves to connect dots is tragically unable to see connections that most affect him.

 

There's so much circumstantial evidence available to the public for obstruction, fraud, money laundering, and various other crimes, I'd hardly know where to begin. For collusion, you don't want to believe the Steele dossier, you don't want to believe your man Nunes' HIC investigation was a partisan charade despite claims they have evidence (not yet publicly available) worthy of looking further. It's true we don't have a "smoking gun" for collusion (yet) but we also know there are things we don't yet know. If you can't see the billowing smoke at this point, there's no need for me to waste my time on you again. The OJ case had more reasonable doubt.

 

I'm sure you'll take this as "proof" that there "is no evidence" because your mind is closed and you're going to conclude that, no matter what. I still have sympathy for you but I don't care to try to persuade you, as you've made it abundantly clear how willingly you want to be a sucker, and how hard you're willing to work at it. 

 

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

And that little episode yesterday basically proves he's got nada. 

When you overreach your authority, when you resort to process crimes to "prove" your worth, you got nuthin'. 

 

Those are some impressive mental gymnastics. Judges award you 7, 8, 8 and... 7. Looks like they docked some points for not sticking the landing.

Edited April 10, 2018 by LA Grant

[TakeYouToTasker]

7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Some can't be reached. Others must be mocked for their own good. And a few are not interested in honest discussions, just insults - which are repaid in full.

 

You know which one you are, Garbear. 

 

You couldn't summarize my position if you had all day to do so. 

 

So forgive me for not giving a flip what you think of a position you admit you don't understand or haven't bothered to read. 

 

But please, LA Asshat, keep going. You're proving yourself to be a giant intellectual.  

Grant doesn't care to summarize your position.  Grant is a Marxist agitator and Alinskyite who refuses to engage in honest debate.  Rather than do so he makes personal attacks, and constructs strawmen to attack.  He insists others answer his questions, but refuses to respond to questions asked of him.

 

He goes so far as to attempt to associate those he disagrees with, with pedophiles in place of making an argument.  Recently he has called conservative/Republicans "abject evil".

 

He tells people that it's not important for them to understand the issues, but it is important for them to be passionate about them, and tells them to outsource their critical thinking surrounding those issues to groups he has aligned himself with.  To be more emotional, less interested in learning and understanding of the events which dictate your lives.  To trust him while he advocates policies which strip away the protections of the most basic human rights, advocating for knife control, much less gun control, limits to your speech and religious rights; all while laughing away the beginnings of a genocide happening today in a Western nation.  But you should trust him, and people like him.  Blindly.  Unthinking.  But be passionate about it.  Because the other guys are abject evil.

 

And now he's trying to tell you that the FBI, currently under investigation for wide ranging criminality rising to the level of treason, seizing all of the communications between the sitting President and his lawyer isn't problematic because his lawyer's (reported) nebulous involvement with taxi medallions somehow create a magical criminal conspiracy between Trump and Cohen, and the FBI, hostile towards the president to a criminal degree and rife with leaks, is proper in making an end run around all the protections afforded to citizens by our system of jurisprudence.

 

Again, Grant does not believe in rights or the foundational principals of our country, and he has demonstrated for us another vital tradition of our system of justice:  the right to representation in defense.  Note how he savages Alan Dershowitz for having the audacity to defend a man who, regardless of guilt or innocence, had evidence planted for use against him (a common practice with the LAPD at the time) by the police.   Think about that:  even lawyers who stand for the accused against the weight of government are bad people who should not be listened to, because they stand for the accused against the government.

 

Beliefs like this are not hallmarks of a good person.  They are representative of a would-if-only-he-could-be despot who worships at the alter of government, and wants you to be emotional and ignorant towards those ends.

 

Don't indulge him.  Become your own expert.  Make up your own mind.  Live free.

 

[boyst]

57 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

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Fun Fact: This is actually what Rhino says to himself in the mirror every morning.

 

Then he slaps himself repeatedly, NO!! Trump is innocent!! It must be true!! It IS true!!! ...<deep breath> It IS true. <deep breath> It is true.

??????????

[Warren Zevon]

@LA Grant has been TakenToTASKER!

 

How will he survive!?

[DC Tom]

56 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

You couldn't summarize my position if you had all day to do so. 

 

 

He can't summarize his own position.

 

I was counting the fallacies in his long post, above.  I stopped around 15.  

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, garybusey said:

@LA Grant has been TakenToTASKER!

 

How will he survive!?

By ignoring it completely (he says he doesn't read other people's posts because he doesn't care - I question his literacy in general, and the evidence is on my side). 

 

 

Just now, DC Tom said:

He can't summarize his own position.

 

I was counting the fallacies in his long post, above.  I stopped around 15.  

 

Which is a shame. A good debate is encouraged. 

 

Asshatting just to asshat gets old fast.

 

[Tiberius]

26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

And that little episode yesterday basically proves he's got nada. 

When you overreach your authority, when you resort to process crimes to "prove" your worth, you got nuthin'. 
 

No it does not. In no way does it show that at all. You may want that to be the truth, but thinking does not make it so. 

[LA Grant]

1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

Grant doesn't care to summarize your position. 

 

Oh, Tasker. Here we go again. 

 

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Grant is a Marxist agitator and Alinskyite who refuses to engage in honest debate.  Rather than do so he makes personal attacks, and constructs strawmen to attack.  He insists others answer his questions, but refuses to respond to questions asked of him.

 

Bolded is both a personal attack & you attacking a strawman. The evidence isn't with you here. 

 

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He goes so far as to attempt to associate those he disagrees with, with pedophiles in place of making an argument.  Recently he has called conservative/Republicans "abject evil".

 

 

You said yourself that we shouldn't restrict the Bill of Rights, including the Supreme Court clarifying that 1A does not protect child pornography, though 1A does protect adult porn. Hence, you support pedophiles. Entirely fair, and is a valid argument. You just don't like your own logic being used against you.

 

If you'd like to make a case for conservatives/Republicans not being abject evil, I'm all ears. The evidence isn't with you here either.

 

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He tells people that it's not important for them to understand the issues, but it is important for them to be passionate about them, and tells them to outsource their critical thinking surrounding those issues to groups he has aligned himself with.  To be more emotional, less interested in learning and understanding of the events which dictate your lives.

 

Here, Tasker is passionately telling you to take his word for it that I'm advocating for ignorance. Disingenuous at best. Once again, the evidence isn't with you (this will be a recurring theme).

 

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To trust him while he advocates policies which strip away the protections of the most basic human rights, advocating for knife control, much less gun control, limits to your speech and religious rights; all while laughing away the beginnings of a genocide happening today in a Western nation.  But you should trust him, and people like him.  Blindly.  Unthinking.  But be passionate about it.  Because the other guys are abject evil.

 

Tasker supports repealing the 17th Amendment, and does not want the public to directly elect Senators. He went as far as to say he wants less "democracy" in "democratic republic."

 

Tasker uses "Western nation" to make you think he's referring to Europe, but actually his genocide example was for a South African country which holds very little similarities to the US. That is Tasker's example for why America must never limit 2A... despite no examples of stronger gun laws leading to genocide in Europe, Asia, or Australia.

 

The evidence is with him here. Just kidding. It isn't at all.

 

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And now he's trying to tell you that the FBI, currently under investigation for wide ranging criminality rising to the level of treason, seizing all of the communications between the sitting President and his lawyer isn't problematic because his lawyer's (reported) nebulous involvement with taxi medallions somehow create a magical criminal conspiracy between Trump and Cohen, and the FBI, hostile towards the president to a criminal degree and rife with leaks, is proper in making an end run around all the protections afforded to citizens by our system of jurisprudence.

 

Tasker would like you to believe that criminal investigations can not be trusted in America unless he personally oversees it. Evidence be damned, as is the Tasker way.

 

Let's not forget that Tasker has (repeatedly) predicted Trump will be regarded as a hero equal to George Washington. Every day that possibility becomes even more remote. But Tasker really likes feeling right — so he's willing to bend reality to make it fit. 

 

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Again, Grant does not believe in rights or the foundational principals of our country, and he has demonstrated for us another vital tradition of our system of justice:  the right to representation in defense.  Note how he savages Alan Dershowitz for having the audacity to defend a man who, regardless of guilt or innocence, had evidence planted for use against him (a common practice with the LAPD at the time) by the police.   Think about that:  even lawyers who stand for the accused against the weight of government are bad people who should not be listened to, because they stand for the accused against the government.

 

Somehow Tasker is assuming I don't believe in the right to defense, which is (a) a strawman, (b) a personal attack, (c) entirely unconnected to anything I've previously said.

 

IIRC, Tasker also has no issue with the Immigration Court system that does not provide the right to an attorney, forcing children to represent themselves before a judge. 

 

He'll tell you that is okay; those damn illegal kids knew what they were getting themselves into. But pointing out that Dershowitz has a track record of making strained arguments for the famous and the guilty? Why, that's just beyond the pale. 

 

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Beliefs like this are not hallmarks of a good person.  They are representative of a would-if-only-he-could-be despot who worships at the alter of government, and wants you to be emotional and ignorant towards those ends.

 

Don't indulge him.  Become your own expert.  Make up your own mind.  Live free.

 

These all describe Tasker, as demonstrated.

 

Taken that way, I fully agree. 

 

Don't indulge him. Make up your own mind. Your voice & your vote matters, even if Tasker doesn't want you to have either.