Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 To paraphrase another TBD contributor: What do we really know about the Las Vegas ownership and front office? Are they in league with the devil? Where were they before they came to Las Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: To paraphrase another TBD contributor: What do we really know about the Las Vegas ownership and front office? Are they in league with the devil? Where were they before they came to Las Vegas? Why are they called "Vegas" when they are Las Vegas... And why is Tampa Bay not Tampa, but kinda get that... It's the Tampa-St.Pete Bay area. By calling them Vegas, are the disassociated from the gambling Mafia connection? It's Las Vegas = The Meadows. "The" is kinda important, because it's their name! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, eball said: I'm with you on this. It's not as if Vegas is some sort of hockey hotbed; the Knights are the "in" thing to do right now. Wait until they miss the playoffs one year and the "new" fans are like, "what is this crap?" Winning big early in a non-traditional market isn't a positive (in my opinion) unless they can keep it going. Serious question: Would losing early in a non-traditional market be a positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Serious question: Would losing early in a non-traditional market be a positive? You're not really serious are you? The point is that in a non-traditional market you're looking to build a fanbase that will support the team through the good and bad. If they have to "grow" with the team it builds loyalty. There are no absolutes here; just a gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eball said: You're not really serious are you? The point is that in a non-traditional market you're looking to build a fanbase that will support the team through the good and bad. If they have to "grow" with the team it builds loyalty. There are no absolutes here; just a gut feeling. Well I was a little confused why you thought winning wasn't a positive as the alternative to winning is losing, and that would be a much bigger negative, IMO. I do disagree a little bit though. When building a fan base, you have to get the kids. The 6-20s year old demographic. You get those fans by being winners, because kids love winners. Then they are fans for life. And their kids are fans. Look at the Bills in the 90s and most of our fanbase. How many lifelong fans did that Super Bowl era beget? Versus the 2000-2010 era? You're right, no absolutes. But success out of the gate is a positive when it comes to growing a fan base, IMO. Edited May 7, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Well I was a little confused why you thought winning wasn't a positive as the alternative to winning is losing, and that would be a much bigger negative, IMO. I do disagree a little bit though. When building a fan base, you have to get the kids. The 6-20s year old demographic. You get those fans by being winners, because kids love winners. Then they are fans for life. And their kids are fans. Look at the Bills in the 90s and most of our fanbase. How many lifelong fans did that Super Bowl era beget? Versus the 2000-2010 era? You're right, no absolutes. But success out of the gate is a positive when it comes to growing a fan base, IMO. You make good points, and no I'm not suggesting that new franchises need to be the '62 Mets. But in certain markets in which there is lots of other stuff to do -- I characterize Vegas as such a market -- early amazing success followed by a drop-off can, I think, have a very negative impact when it's suddenly not the "hot" thing any more. The Bills are a really bad comparison, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Commonsense said: Don’t worry about thit Knights they will soon be swept away by the Jets. I wouldn't count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dante said: I wouldn't count on it. whats the general thought Dante about what the Sharks are going to do with Kane? I am hoping they are going sign him, but guess that is up to Kane as well. My sense from 3,000 miles away is it seems like a good fit on both sides.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dante said: I wouldn't count on it. MAF might steal a game for them otherwise it’s brooms. Jets are so talented and peaking at the right time. Size, skill, and hungry and Hell boy is better than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Considering the erudite bunch we have here, does anyone know how the 'fan base' is comprised in Las Vegas? Does the season ticket holder base consist more of individuals, or is it the hotels and casinos underwriting season tickets? With the number of visitors in and out of Vegas, a large corporate base for season ticket holders would probably skew high for attendance numbers, since the hotels and casinos are handing out the seats to patrons for repeat hotel visits or high participation in the gaming rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: whats the general thought Dante about what the Sharks are going to do with Kane? I am hoping they are going sign him, but guess that is up to Kane as well. My sense from 3,000 miles away is it seems like a good fit on both sides.? I would like to see them sign Kane. Let Thornton go as he is an FA this summer. Let Ward go. Make a serious bid for Taveras. This morning they are saying that Kane is "Non-commital" on resigning. We didn't get too much out of Kane in the Vegas series as he is obviously still injured and no way 100%. Same with Danskoi for that matter. Anyway, my fear is they don't sign Kane or Taveras. Sign Joe and extend Pavelski. Too slow. Time to move on. 53 minutes ago, Commonsense said: MAF might steal a game for them otherwise it’s brooms. Jets are so talented and peaking at the right time. Size, skill, and hungry and Hell boy is better than I expected. They are a nice team. Not going to be easy against the Knights. You don't get a inch and they are quick. Edited May 7, 2018 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 The Predators and Thrashers did not do this well in their inaugural season, or for many years after. The VGK year has been a record-breaking one. I don't think it has much to do with a "welfare" system as it has been put. Certainly being gifted Fleury helps, but even then no one predicted he would be playing this well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Caps Pens tied 1-1 3rd period about to start. Pens picking up speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Vrana is a beast right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Damn. OT. The refs are letting them play but also letting some bad penalties go when they shouldn’t. Pens are getting away with too many trips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 The Caps finally get by the Pens in a playoff series. Ovie over Crosby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Caps pull the monkey off of their back. Next game Friday night !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Think I'm pulling for Tampa now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 What a wild OT !!! The pens fans can cry in their towels. The ones that threw Ovi the finger after his game winning goal 2 games ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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