akm0404 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: We are going into the season with AJ and Peterman. Thats not the best situation In fact, it is arguably the worst situation at the most important position in professional sports.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Why would we trade down from 12 when we just traded up to get there?
Radar Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: Merryland, is not so merry. We all know the way it works. We all know you want to add players instead of a QB. Why all the threads repeating your own agenda? Get a QB! A top one! Rosen or Mayfield! That's all. Great thread? Because it's not your agenda? Seems there is no shortage of threads of your agenda. Why does an opposing agenda get you so snarky. By t wondering?
Carter Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 There are two types of personalities. This guy (Op) is obviously personality B
BuffAlone Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Radar said: Because it's not your agenda? Seems there is no shortage of threads of your agenda. Why does an opposing agenda get you so snarky. By t wondering? I didn't realize I had an agenda, but that said, we all know what his is. And that's fine by me. Just wondered why we needed another thread about it is all. Wasn't trying to be "snarky", but just funny. Sorry if it offended you. What threads of mine are agenda laden, might I ask? Edited April 5, 2018 by BuffAlone
Radar Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: I didn't realize I had an agenda, but that said, we all know what his is. And that's fine by me. Just wondered why we needed another thread about it is all. Wasn't trying to be "snarky", but just funny. Sorry if it offended you. What threads of mine are agenda laden, might I ask? No problem. I agree no need for more threads but that goes for the trade up crew as well as the keep the picks gang. Sorry miss understood funny as snarky. Man let's just get this draft over with.
Batman1876 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Based on history this is what I see. 2019 - we lose players to free Agency, retirement and some draft picks bust, hence we have holes. But we are middling record between 6-10 and 9-7. Then everyone says we need to fill holes so let’s just draft to fill holes and we will do it next season. Besides none of the QBS are guarantees. 2020 - we lose players to free Agency, retirement and some draft picks bust, h nice we have holes. But we are middling record between 6-10 and 9-7. Then everyone says we need to fill holes so let’s just draft to fill holes and we will do it next season. Besides none of the QBS are guarantees. 2021 - we lose players to free Agency, retirement and some draft picks bust, h nice we have holes. But we are middling record between 6-10 and 9-7. Then everyone says we need to fill holes so let’s just draft to fill holes and we will do it next season. Besides none of the QBS are guarantees. 2022 - we lose players to free Agency, retirement and some draft picks bust, h nice we have holes. But we are middling record between 6-10 and 9-7. Then everyone says we need to fill holes so let’s just draft to fill holes and we will do it next season. Besides none of the QBS are guarantees. You left out coach gets fired players no longer fit scheme.
BuffAlone Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Radar said: No problem. I agree no need for more threads but that goes for the trade up crew as well as the keep the picks gang. Sorry miss understood funny as snarky. Man let's just get this draft over with. I couldn't agree more! Either way it goes down, I'll accept and trust it. But damn, I want a QB. Never a better time than now
cle23 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Herb62 said: Take the kid from Richmond in round 2, he is a steal. I think he goes to NE at 31.
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Posted April 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Let’s trade all our picks this year so we have 32 7th round picks in 2019 and 2020. 7th round picks are little better than undrafted free agents.
ganesh Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 13 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: If the Bills don't get their QB of the future this draft, well then there is next year and the year after. We have two 1st, two 2nd and two third round picks this year. Maybe we can load up picks for another try next year. Trade down from #12 to get a first and second round pick this year. Trade that second round pick and one of the other 2nd round picks for two 2019 first round picks. That would give us three 1st round picks next year. We should be able to get any guy we wanted OR do a similar deal to get 3 in 2020. This year we would have:........... two 1st round picks...........one second round pick and.........two third round picks. Not saying we could find partners for such a deal, but it would give us a good draft this year and a lot of ammo for next year. We already have enough draft capital to trade up this year and get our guy. The questions being asked on this board is whether the bills want to pay so many draft picks to get their QB. My question is: Why would that question go away next year unless and until we tank and get the #2 pick like the Giants. The Bills simply have to decide the value of their picks and the QB they can draft with them. If they convince themselves that the value is there, they will go get their guy in this years draft. We don't know what Bean and McDermott are thinking right now. I mean, you have to use your draft picks to get the players you want.
BigBuff423 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, mead107 said: Riley Ferguson 2nd round I'll give you this....you are consistent Bud. 2
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Posted April 5, 2018 11 hours ago, billsfan5121 said: So we should stockpile picks for next year to move up, but not use the picks we stockpiled this year to move up in a more qb heavy draft? That doesn’t make sense. I can see it now (if it ever happened), next year, we have a ton of picks. Then we would still have the same crowd saying we can’t mortgage the picks. Wait till 2020. We can’t keep pushing it back. In fact, your scenario is the exact same scenario the front office used in preparation for this year. So why not now? It is not an automatic thing that somebody will trade with us this year.
Batman1876 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: It is not an automatic thing that somebody will trade with us this year. Or any year. But at least this year we know there are worthwhile prospects. Are you ok waiting indefinitely for a QB?
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Posted April 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: Or any year. But at least this year we know there are worthwhile prospects. Are you ok waiting indefinitely for a QB? No. I am not willing to trade up to the top 3 slots to get one. Slots 4-7 is a maybe (I don't know if the top ones are so good that it would be worth it). 8+ for one of the top 4 I would do.
Batman1876 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: No. I am not willing to trade up to the top 3 slots to get one. Slots 4-7 is a maybe (I don't know if the top ones are so good that it would be worth it). 8+ for one of the top 4 I would do. Would you be willing to make that trade to get a prospect of this quality in another year?
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 5, 2018 Author Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) The top 3 slots are so expensive. (3000, 2600, 2200 are the costs for the 1st three picks). If you were drafting in the #7 spot, it would take you this entire draft (~2400 points) and some of next year's draft to get the 3000 points for the first overall pick. Ouch. You started out with a time that was 25th in the league and you probably lost a few starters due to age or free agency. Ouch. And then everybody added about 3-4 quality draft picks and you added none. It is a long way to catch up from there, even with a much better QB. By the way, rookie QB's playing with bad teams do NOT develop all their potential and remember that about 50% of them (regardless of how beautiful they look at the combine) don't work out. ....... With the loss of many players from the Bills I think we are in poorer shape right now than last year. We might be in that sort of boat. Edited April 5, 2018 by maryland-bills-fan
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