Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I don't think this is a reflection on the players performance. It's about where the FA WR market is going ( up up up), cost certainty of drafted players and what positions are valued most by GMs. It seems QB, pass rushers and pass protectors are the most valued positions, and many teams will recycle most skill position guys every few years . This WR class has produced ( unlike the classes since) and have been highly valued in the FA market by teams looking for them. The weakness of the current draft crop is a contributor to that as well. 2
TuelTime Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 What a deep class. Shame they used two #1s for Sammy when they probably could've traded down and grabbed two receivers who were better (Lee, Adams, Landry, Bryant). 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, TuelTime said: What a deep class. Shame they used two #1s for Sammy when they probably could've traded down and grabbed two receivers who were better (Lee, Adams, Landry, Bryant). Another reason why we needed to clean out the front office. Whaley underproduced with the draft.
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, TuelTime said: What a deep class. Shame they used two #1s for Sammy when they probably could've traded down and grabbed two receivers who were better (Lee, Adams, Landry, Bryant). Landry better? Anyway, too much to spend on a move up for a non QB. Well worn territory though, file it away in the book of Bills draft errors. 1
jr1 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 surprising how many guys are on at least their second team
ngbills Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Rnd Pick Tm Player Rec Yds▼ TD 1 7 TAM Mike Evans 309 4579 32 1 12 NYG Odell Beckham 313 4424 38 2 63 MIA Jarvis Landry 400 4038 22 1 20 NOR Brandin Cooks 280 3943 27 1 4 BUF Sammy Watkins 192 3052 25 2 42 PHI Jordan Matthews 250 2955 20 2 61 JAX Allen Robinson 202 2848 22 2 53 GNB Davante Adams 237 2811 26 1 28 CAR Kelvin Benjamin 184 2641 19 3 91 ARI John Brown 173 2515 17 2 39 JAX Marqise Lee 171 2166 8 1
Thurman#1 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Bumpy in terms of movement between teams. But there are a lot of good players there, an awful lot. The movement isn't all that surprising, really. Teams generally have somewhere on the order of 10, maybe twelve core guys. Around them they generally draft new blood and bring in FAs. The rate of roster turnover is really high. And if I were to guess, I'd guess it's higher at WR than at many other positions. To be a core guy on your team at WR you have to be very good because WR salaries are really high, and it's a position that depends an awful lot for it's production on a QB to throw to you. As for overall turnover, look at this article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000340908/article/which-teams-have-had-the-most-nfl-roster-turnover It's from April 2014 and it's looking at players remaining from the 2011 team, meaning players that lasted three years and are still on the roster just after FA began the fourth year. And the number of players remaining range from 7 (Colts) to 25 (Packers). The median was 16. Meaning most teams kept in the neighborhood of slightly less than a third of their players for 3 years and an offseason up to April. Based on those numbers, the 2014 WR class looks about how you'd expect.
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, TuelTime said: What a deep class. Shame they used two #1s for Sammy when they probably could've traded down and grabbed two receivers who were better (Lee, Adams, Landry, Bryant). Or could have still mad the trade but selected Khalil Mack.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 The one draft where trading UP for a WR was completely unnecessary. Give up 2 firsts for the 4th or 5th best WR in the class.
Ol Dirty B Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, TuelTime said: What a deep class. Shame they used two #1s for Sammy when they probably could've traded down and grabbed two receivers who were better (Lee, Adams, Landry, Bryant). That post is as awful as your name. None of those receivers are better than Sammy. 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 The fact that WRs move around in Free Agency does not mean they aren't any good! I'm not sure what the moral of this story is supposed to be. Many of these names are still widely known and productive today....even if they are on their second or third team. They are not out of the NFL altogether.
TuelTime Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: That post is as awful as your name. None of those receivers are better than Sammy. Based on what? His untapped elite talent? I'll concede he is better than Lee. 1
without a drought Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Everyone wants to draft elite receivers until you have to pay them, then they seem to lose their luster . This also pertains to corners. 1
BuffaloRush Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Thank you Whaley for drafting such generational talent
Hebert19 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ngbills said: Rnd Pick Tm Player Rec Yds▼ TD 1 7 TAM Mike Evans 309 4579 32 1 12 NYG Odell Beckham 313 4424 38 2 63 MIA Jarvis Landry 400 4038 22 1 20 NOR Brandin Cooks 280 3943 27 1 4 BUF Sammy Watkins 192 3052 25 2 42 PHI Jordan Matthews 250 2955 20 2 61 JAX Allen Robinson 202 2848 22 2 53 GNB Davante Adams 237 2811 26 1 28 CAR Kelvin Benjamin 184 2641 19 3 91 ARI John Brown 173 2515 17 2 39 JAX Marqise Lee 171 2166 8 Irrelevant how many teams. These numbers are insane and thata with injuries to sammy Benjamin and others for extended time. 1
ngbills Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Irrelevant how many teams. These numbers are insane and thata with injuries to sammy Benjamin and others for extended time. Yep - not a "bumpy ride" for these guys. A ton of success in that draft. You have basically 4 guys with 4K rec yards. In 2015 you only have Amari Cooper on track for that. In 2016 only Michael Thomas. Only D Hopkins from the 2013 draft did it. 1
Hebert19 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Yep - not a "bumpy ride" for these guys. A ton of success in that draft. You have basically 4 guys with 4K rec yards. In 2015 you only have Amari Cooper on track for that. In 2016 only Michael Thomas. Only D Hopkins from the 2013 draft did it. Plus 9 dudes with 19 or more touchdowns. Also crazy. 1
GunnerBill Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I still think that was a great WR draft. Same was 2017 was a grear DB draft.
Recommended Posts