Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Trying to throw people off on the Pats QB scent and mentioning the Patriots other holes such as tackle, wide receiver, running back. But I can totally see them going after Mike White Kyle Lauletta or Mason Rudolph where they are now. Edited April 4, 2018 by Jamie Muellers Ghost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Who cares Patriots don't have more ammo to move up than the Bills so moot point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 Do not ever underestimate your opponent especially one that that has handed you your jock strap for 20 years. Read The Art of War one day. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I didn’t hear it, but is he considered a Pats shill? I mean they do have those holes, so he’s not lying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Pats aren't going to draft a late day 2 or day 3 QB on day 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 my only concern is what the bills do. the patsies**, meh, they're going to do what they're going to do, it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Who cares Patriots don't have more ammo to move up than the Bills so moot point. Doesn't matter how many bullets you have if you aren't willing to put them all in the gun. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Pats do have holes to fill, Brady's blind side protection being an obvious one. There are good RBs in this draft. It's not all that crazy, as they didn't have much to spend in FA. Makes draft picks more valuable to them, and that's usually been their MO anyway. Picks and more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Pats have gotten nothing from round 1 and 2 over the last 2 years. The roster depth getting exposed because they've traded picks and lost them due to league punishments. While I don't trust they won't push all in to get one of the QBs, they badly need an influx of cheap young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Doesn't matter how many bullets you have if you aren't willing to put them all in the gun. Do we know that the Bills aren't willing to do this? Or that the Patriots are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Do we know that the Bills aren't willing to do this? Or that the Patriots are? I think if Beane were willing to offer up 12 / 22 / 53 / 56 / 65 / 2019 1st we'd have pick #2 right now. They just aren't getting a better offer from anyone than that. So either 1) the pick simply isn't available at this moment or 2) we are holding out for the price to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: I think if Beane were willing to offer up 12 / 22 / 53 / 56 / 65 / 2019 1st we'd have pick #2 right now. They just aren't getting a better offer from anyone than that. So either 1) the pick simply isn't available at this moment or 2) we are holding out for the price to go down. I'd lean toward the pick isn't available right now. I.e. The Gmen are holding out , probably until they see what CLE does at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: I think if Beane were willing to offer up 12 / 22 / 53 / 56 / 65 / 2019 1st we'd have pick #2 right now. They just aren't getting a better offer from anyone than that. So either 1) the pick simply isn't available at this moment or 2) we are holding out for the price to go down. I think it is neither. I think they have 1 guy that they are willing to pay that price for and they are not going to press go until the Browns' card has been handed in and does not contain that name. That does make me think it might be the wrong Josh.... but here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Who cares Patriots don't have more ammo to move up than the Bills so moot point. Yeah, the Jets didn't the same amount as the Bills to offer but they made it happen. It's not just the ammo it's what ammo you are willing to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: Yeah, the Jets didn't the same amount as the Bills to offer but they made it happen. It's not just the ammo it's what ammo you are willing to part with. Jets didn't have to move up as far as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: Jets didn't have to move up as far as we do. Point was they made the move because of what they were willing to give up. Like a poster mentioned above, all the ammo in the world doesn't do you any good if you don't lock and load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The dynasty is over. They went all in for 2017. Bc they knew. They lost Solder Butler and Dion Lewis and their DC. What the heck is Gronk doing? Will Edleman be 100 percent? They chose a 41 year old QB over Jimmy G. But yea. They're brilliant. Everything is easier when you have elite QBs let alone the GOAT. But it's not going to be easier in 2018. He can TB12 diet and workout however he wants but to quote Rocky, "time is undefeated." I think it's over for the BB-Brady era. But they'll go down swinging. Not overreach in the first 2 rounds to get McDaniels (he should have went to Indy) a QB for the future. They'll make the playoffs. Maybe. But they aren't going to the SB. They have lots of holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Yeah, the Jets didn't the same amount as the Bills to offer but they made it happen. It's not just the ammo it's what ammo you are willing to part with. The Jets had better ammo than the Bills. A top ten ( almost top 5) pick. 6 beats 12 every time. Also a higher second round pick. There's this thing called the draft order: it matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The dynasty is over. They went all in for 2017. Bc they knew. They lost Solder Butler and Dion Lewis and their DC. What the heck is Gronk doing? Will Edleman be 100 percent? They chose a 41 year old QB over Jimmy G. But yea. They're brilliant. Everything is easier when you have elite QBs let alone the GOAT. But it's not going to be easier in 2018. He can TB12 diet and workout however he wants but to quote Rocky, "time is undefeated." I think it's over for the BB-Brady era. But they'll go down swinging. Not overreach in the first 2 rounds to get McDaniels (he should have went to Indy) a QB for the future. They'll make the playoffs. Maybe. But they aren't going to the SB. They have lots of holes to fill. They will still win 12 games and be in the championship game. They dont have that many holes. Move Cannon to lt. Waddle stays at rt. They still have good depth at receiver and running back. Biggest hole is pass rusher. Hopefully Rivers is good to go opposite Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: The Jets had better ammo than the Bills. A top ten ( almost top 5) pick. 6 beats 12 every time. Also a higher second round pick. There's this thing called the draft order: it matters. So a top ten pick is better than 12, 22, 53 and a potential first rounder next year? Cool good thing that draft order is the only thing in play. Yes them staying in the top six was important, but if buffalo was willing they absolutely had more to offer. Edited April 4, 2018 by BillsFan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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