transplantbillsfan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, thebandit27 said: that's up to you man; all I'm asking is that we not obstruct the discussion with what on the surface appears to be a relatively petty feud between two otherwise decent people. Well... I've always thought it was childish to report other posters... like going and telling mommy. But I guess from now on when Thurm attacks me or derails the conversation by bringing up old baggage that isn't remotely relevant to the conversation, I'll report the post to the mods. Just now, whatdrought said: I'm confused...? I wasn't accusing Orlovsky of being unqualified to say what was being said, and in fact, I thought his analysis was spot on. Rather I was just saying that I personally cannot listen to that without thinking about him running out of the back of the endzone because it's one of the dumbest football plays I've ever seen. I apologize if my OP made it sound like I was criticizing him or questioning his qualifications. I understand completely. And agree. I changed my Jordan Palmer post to more fully reflect what I meant. Bad NFL QBs are the guys who often grow into good analysts, media personalities, and even "gurus" for some reason. And it's ironic. Saying the same thing, just bringing up the other obvious example from the thread 1
Thurman#1 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, thebandit27 said: The last 3 pages of this thread have been you two bitching at each other. I look at this the same way as I do when I catch my pre-schoolers fighting: I don't care who started it; it's time to drop it and ignore each other. Go to separate rooms until you can get along. Heh heh. Fair enough. But it's relevant. Here's a guy who's been massively wrong about QBs with absolute consistency. And spamming the boards about it with thousands and thousands of posts about it. For years. Who hasn't learned from it and won't even admit it at this point. Wanting to be taken seriously on the subject of QBs. It's relevant and I'll bring it up again. But yeah, fair enough. for now I'll let it drop. Can't promise how long that will last. If he turns on the fire hose again - and he certainly does seem like that's the direction in which he's headed - it's IMO worth reminding people that that's when he's at his most wrong. Edited April 13, 2018 by Thurman#1
Thurman#1 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 8:12 AM, T master said: So they have a QB coach that couldn't stick on a NFL roster teaching them how to be a good NFL QB ! I don't see anything wrong with that !! Nor should you. Did Lombardi or Belichick stick on an NFL roster? Do they teach people to be good NFL players? That's irrelevant. What's relevant is whether he's a good coach. And DeShaun Watson has gone out of his way very often to say he thinks Palmer is terrific and had a lot to do with his success. Which probably has a lot to do with why he got Rosen and Allen this year. He's a very highly regarded QB coach. Not that that guarantees the success of his pupils. But he knows his ****.
DCOrange Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 10:09 AM, HappyDays said: Another Orlovsky breakdown: Orlovsky doesn't think Allen's accuracy is a bad as other scouts do, but he is worried about his ability to process things on the field. I'm sure there's plenty of examples of each of this year's QBs lacking eye discipline; this example isn't really very good though. The whole point of the play was to look at the TE and pump fake as he makes his cut out; the QB is trying to sell the defense on the idea that he's making the first throw to the TE and it works. Allen just put too much air under this pass and allowed the safety to get over and make a play on it.
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