aristocrat Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, Thurmanator 12074 said: I think we might be looking at the beginning of the Josh Allen era at 1 Bills Drive. God no
Acattack15 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 No idea why so much hate on this board over Josh Allen. The goal is to win a Super Bowl, correct? What potential better way to do so then pick the QB with the most potential and most atheltism at the position in the last 5-10years. He would come into a great situation where he could sit and learn for a year. Let McCaron start in 2018, then after a big offseason next year in which we have $90 million in cap space, he would come in, & start with a (hopefully) loaded roster. It makes too much sense. Its not all about 2018.... its about the next 10 years. Gotta look at the bigger picture here. Beane and McDermontt are buidling for longevity and future... clearly eyeing 2019 and beyond for continual success. Trust the process.... Draft Josh Allen P.S. I will support whomever the Bills pull the trigger on (preferable Josh Allen, Rosen, or Darnold tho)
TOboy Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Am I mistaken in recalling it was Peter King who originally started the Allen to the Browns talk? And now he's shooting it down? 1
BigBuff423 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, nucci said: probably just because there are so many QBs..... No, it's Monday...Thursday is in a few days In other words: 6,497 mock drafts and 1,244,700 rumors later.
zevo Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, TOboy said: Am I mistaken in recalling it was Peter King who originally started the Allen to the Browns talk? And now he's shooting it down? Exactly....these guys a !@#$in idiots 1
Chuck Wagon Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Browns take Darnold #1 Barkley goes #2 Rosen or Baker for NYJ at 3 Browns take Allen #4 Mass Hysteria! Pick 5: Trade announced: Bills trade #12 / #22 / #53 / #56 / 2019 1st Bills get: Sam Darnold Browns trade Darnold Browns get: #5 / #22 / #53 / 2019 Bills first Broncos trade #5 Broncos get #12 / #56 / #65 Browns take Chubb #5 The Browns get the same players they could potentially take at 1 and 4 and add #22 / #53 / 2019 Bills 1st We get Darnold
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, zevo said: Exactly....these guys a !@#$in idiots He initially relayed what he heard from someone who knows Dorsey well. None of this is directly from King.
zevo Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He initially relayed what he heard from someone who knows Dorsey well. None of this is directly from King. He reports it...
nucci Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: In other words: 6,497 mock drafts and 1,244,700 rumors later. at least...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/2/2018 at 1:22 PM, LedyardCTbillsfan said: God that would be awesome but I don't buy it. That would be horrible if we cant move up to number 2, that would mean the Jets would have the choice of Darnold or Mayfield. Cleveland have Big Ben fever if they draft Allen, he might end up being a Big Ben clone but he has a ton of work to do to get there.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, zevo said: He reports it... Of course he does, but anything pre-draft is fluid with plenty of misinformation out there to weed through.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 If we can't move up I'm hoping Darnold and Mayfield are off the board before the Jets pick.
NewEraBills Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 If you are the Browns you cannot take Allen. You just can't, even if he turns out to be good you just can't do it because you don't know if he will be good and you have to make the safest pick at 1 that you can and Allen is not a safe pick at 1. You go with the guys that have production and experience. If they don't work out then they don't work out, but if you take Allen and he doesn't work out the consequences are much more serious.
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: If you are the Browns you cannot take Allen. You just can't, even if he turns out to be good you just can't do it because you don't know if he will be good and you have to make the safest pick at 1 that you can and Allen is not a safe pick at 1. You go with the guys that have production and experience. If they don't work out then they don't work out, but if you take Allen and he doesn't work out the consequences are much more serious. I actually think they are in the best position to take Allen. They are clearly promoting TYrod as the starter. He’s getting starting QB treatment around Cleveland. They are setting it up as the QB of the future will be drafted but as a developmental guy. I think they can sell Allen as the high upside guy as they sell Tyrod as the guy who is going to come in an actually win some games for the city, get the team back to being competitive, jmo contrast that to the Bills, who aren’t really promoting AJ at all and signed him to a backup level deal relatively late in FA. They are setting it up as they are taking the starting QB in the draft. It would be weird to me if the one who needs the most development is their pick. Again Jmo Edited April 23, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
HappyDays Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They are clearly promoting TYrod as the starter. He’s getting starting QB treatment around Cleveland. They are setting it up as the QB of the future will be drafted but as a developmental guy. On that point:
NewEraBills Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually think they are in the best position to take Allen. They are clearly promoting TYrod as the starter. He’s getting starting QB treatment around Cleveland. They are setting it up as the QB of the future will be drafted but as a developmental guy. I think they can sell Allen as the high upside guy as they sell Tyrod as the guy who is going to come in an actually win some games for the city, get the team back to being competitive, jmo contrast that to the Bills, who aren’t really promoting AJ at all and signed him to a backup level deal relatively late in FA. They are setting it up as they are taking the starting QB in the draft. It would be weird to me if the one who needs the most development is their pick. Again Jmo I agree they are in the best position to do so, but to me, you still can't do it. He's just not as safe as Darnold for them. The Browns have been in this spot needing a QB too many times and they have missed on a QB too many times. They have failed so much that they were afraid to take a QB with the #1 pick last year. They have to make a safer pick. Given that both will need time (Allen moreso than Darnold) I also agree that Buffalo is not a great spot for Allen. But if everyone else is gone and he's on the board at 6 or later I'd take him.
BigBuff423 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually think they are in the best position to take Allen. They are clearly promoting TYrod as the starter. He’s getting starting QB treatment around Cleveland. They are setting it up as the QB of the future will be drafted but as a developmental guy. I think they can sell Allen as the high upside guy as they sell Tyrod as the guy who is going to come in an actually win some games for the city, get the team back to being competitive, jmo contrast that to the Bills, who aren’t really promoting AJ at all and signed him to a backup level deal relatively late in FA. They are setting it up as they are taking the starting QB in the draft. It would be weird to me if the one who needs the most development is their pick. Again Jmo That's a reasonable train of thought. However, if the Bills stay put at 12 and take Allen, while I'm not a big Allen guy, and they keep all of their current picks or even add some through more trades, the argument could be made that AJ was brought in to give himself a one year audition. Not just for the Bills but for other teams to see that he can play in this league....or he can't. Simply put, if the Bills sit still at 12, I think AJ playing out the year is a consideration. IF the Bills trade up into the top 5, then IMHO, I agree with your take. I don't see them taking a guy like Allen at 5 and still needing so much. They would need to take a guy who could at least legit push AJ to start this year.
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