HappyDays Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: 12, 22, 53, 65 and 2019 2nd for 2 and a 5th. That should get it done. Add in next year's 1st and you probably get it done. That being said I wouldn't give up that much for someone who is maybe not even focused on football.
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Not sure how I feel about this as it sounds like it will be very expensive...if its to go up and get Baker Mayfield or Darnold I would feel better about it than if it was Allen or Rosen. But I do fear the costs of these moves to get up into the top 5. But ultimately, if Beane and McD see a guy they believe is a MUST grab prospect, then I get it and will support it. I still prefer a cheaper trade up to 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10 for one of the guys who ultimately falls out of the top 5, but my 100% first choice is Baker and he seems to have had a lot of interaction with us and if we went up and got him I would be ecstatic. Darnold would also be very exciting...he was my top guy coming into the new year. His play was frustrating at times this year, and he is far from a lock, but his upside is still immense and would prefer him way more than Rosen because I have real durability concerns about Rosen and his Cutler-esque demeanor. I wont hate drafting Rosen, just feel there is a lot more risk with him than Baker or Darnold. If its Allen...I know less about him, so I don't have as much confidence in him simply because of the accuracy concerns and I always more leery of combine heroes who dont have the game tape to match. But, needless to say, his combine was quite impressive and would be exciting prospect still.
K D Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: So they would not only have to move up, but also must pick the player YOU like as opposed to the one they might like ? It makes one wonder why you would bother following the team. Just strange to me. I'd like them to move up to 2 the most because it would give them the most possible options - 3 out of the 4 top ranked QBs. That's the best scenario for the FO, rather than hoping their target falls to them. So that's what I prefer. it's strange to you that I live in Buffalo and my team has been a joke for my entire life and you are wondering why I have a hard time trusting them? funny. it's not a choice to follow them. they are me and i am them. too many reports of them wanting Josh Allen over much better prospects like Rosen for me to trust the situation. I'm just stating a fact that i feel more comfortable with them getting someone like Mayfield at pick 5-7 because i don't trust the situation. newsflash, they aren't going to listen to anything i say and this is just a message board so i'm just stating my opinion. you have stated your opinion in that you would like them to give up everything to move to 2 and i would be fine with that, i just don't feel comfortable once there that they would choose the right person
Kirby Jackson Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Add in next year's 1st and you probably get it done. That being said I wouldn't give up that much for someone who is maybe not even focused on football. You are already paying a big premium before next year’s 1. I don’t see next year’s 1 being involved unless it’s a last resort. That is the Bills single best asset. That’s not the throw in. You keep adding from this year.
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: etc etc etc from other thread Yo...deleted the other thread I started same time...sent you reply there you probably wont see now and just said I was just having fun back in the reply to you and its all good Just copied my original post that started that thread and posted it here and then deleted that thread since we don't need 2 of these suckers. Although now I see others starting the same thread again ha Edited April 2, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1
BuffaloDave55 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, brianb386 said: There is so much information coming out, I actually wonder if it is a smoke screen and they are not planning to trade up. Otherwise, all this info coming out is making them look almost desperate and that will cost them. Agree. The difference between the second and 4th or 5th QB in this years draft is minimal. No where near giving up picks for. I pray it's a smoke screen. 1
Gugny Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Add in next year's 1st and you probably get it done. That being said I wouldn't give up that much for someone who is maybe not even focused on football. I don't understand this knock on the kid. He's a very smart kid and realizes that the overwhelming majority of his lifetime will be spent NOT playing football. What's wrong with looking ahead?
Mark Vader Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Tre white and 12 for the two pick Hell No! Trade draft picks, not players. 1
nucci Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, kdiggz said: it's strange to you that I live in Buffalo and my team has been a joke for my entire life and you are wondering why I have a hard time trusting them? funny. it's not a choice to follow them. they are me and i am them. too many reports of them wanting Josh Allen over much better prospects like Rosen for me to trust the situation. I'm just stating a fact that i feel more comfortable with them getting someone like Mayfield at pick 5-7 because i don't trust the situation. newsflash, they aren't going to listen to anything i say and this is just a message board so i'm just stating my opinion. you have stated your opinion in that you would like them to give up everything to move to 2 and i would be fine with that, i just don't feel comfortable once there that they would choose the right person by reporters just guessing....like many of us are doing 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't understand this knock on the kid. He's a very smart kid and realizes that the overwhelming majority of his lifetime will be spent NOT playing football. What's wrong with looking ahead? probably not a lunch pail carrying, blue collar Buffalo guy
John from Riverside Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Gonna take 50% premium on the pick. That Premium has been set. So you are gonna pay 3000 points for a 2000 point pick. And dont care about next years draft if I have a legit QB Sure I would do that Well I wouldnt Tre White is so perfect for this team.....talent, scheme, and attitude wise. I would rather give up draft picks which are essentially lottery tickets. Let me keep my known good players on rookie deals 1
MAJBobby Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: Well I wouldnt Tre White is so perfect for this team.....talent, scheme, and attitude wise. I would rather give up draft picks which are essentially lottery tickets. Let me keep my known good players on rookie deals QB>>>>>>>CB so if that is what it takes to get the QB then yep I am for it. I can find another CB at 22
Fadingpain Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 I have always had the feeling that Beane was going to move up to get a big name QB. I think that has always been the plan and it has been kind of obvious. Now to see if we can actually do it.
John from Riverside Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: QB>>>>>>>CB so if that is what it takes to get the QB then yep I am for it. I can find another CB at 22 You might find another corner at 22....but your chances of finding a Tre at 22 are VERY slim.....we hit gold with that pick And as far as QB>>>>>>CB......your right but not by much....follow the money..... NONE of these qbs might make it....we KNOW that Tre is a very good player who is probably just gonna keep getting better
Mrbojanglezs Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 46 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Didn't try hard enough to trump the Jets offer.
DJB Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 So what's the theoretical cost to go from 12 to let's say 5 or 6. And the cost from 5 or 6 to 2 using draft picks?
blacklabel Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Don't know if they can count on the Colts to drop down to 12 because after they traded with the Jets, Ballard said he isn't closing the door on more trades but isn't keen on moving himself out of the top 10, so there's that. Looking at the first ten overall spots, I can see why Beane mentions #7 (Tampa Bay) in a hypothetical scenario, because #7 seems like the sweet spot for them if they intend to do two more trades to get up to #2. Colts at 6 are possible, but as I mentioned, they're saying they wanna stay in the top ten. Broncos could be a candidate but I believe they'll be sitting pat and waiting to see how the first few picks go before they decide on if they're going to trade. I doubt they trade if they have a chance at one of the top QBs. Browns sound like they're definitely turning in the card at #1 and #4. They've been trading around and gathering all sorts of draft capital for these last few drafts but it's high time for them to quit worrying about volume and actually make the picks. So... what's left? Raiders at 10, 49ers at 9, Bears at 8.... wouldn't count out any of those teams to trade back but are any of those spots good enough for the Giants? That's the main problem they'll have to solve. How far back are the Giants willing to go? Whatever needs to be done to get to where they wanna be isn't gonna be easy and it isn't gonna be cheap. I said in another thread, I can't see them (Bills) not making another move or two up the board. This has been the plan since Beane arrived, I'm betting. They've unloaded a bunch of cap-killer contracts, acquired plenty of capital, are they good with unloading a bunch of picks for one player? The cap rises again next season so perhaps they plan on getting their franchise guy this year and loading up in FA next year... They're in a pickle. It's not a bad pickle to be in but it's a pickle nonetheless. And they acquired Conor McDermott so their soon to be QB will have his best buddy on the team. Boom. /s
Manther Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, offyourocker said: I really fear we will overpay for a qb It’s not an over pay if you get the right QB. IMO getting the right QB is more important than what you give up to get them. 1
Just Joshin' Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Didn't try hard enough to trump the Jets offer. Hopefully he pulls something off. Refresh my memory - what did he offer that was not good enough? What was Indy willing to accept? If you were GM, what would you have done differently?
MAJBobby Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: You might find another corner at 22....but your chances of finding a Tre at 22 are VERY slim.....we hit gold with that pick And as far as QB>>>>>>CB......your right but not by much....follow the money..... NONE of these qbs might make it....we KNOW that Tre is a very good player who is probably just gonna keep getting better Said same thing about Darby after his rookie year. I would Not offer Tre. But if that is the ONLY package that gets me the QB that i feel is going to be a 15 year plus top end QB I absolutely make the trade
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 it's all good dawg 13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yo...deleted the other thread I started same time...sent you reply there you probably wont see now and just said I was just having fun back in the reply to you and its all good Just copied my original post that started that thread and posted it here and then deleted that thread since we don't need 2 of these suckers. Although now I see others starting the same thread again ha
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