JohnC Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: We have the right OC to make this happen. Daboll will build an offense that works around his height. It's crazy that people would dismiss an amazing QB prospect over something so small (pun intended). It has to be the most predictable outcome in NFL history that Mayfield will have a better career than Allen, but Allen will almost certainly be drafted first solely because of his physical traits. I watched maybe five or six games Mayfield played in against top level teams. There wasn't a game that I watched in which I didn't come away saying that not only was he the best player but also the most compelling playing on the field. And I'm including the Georgia game in which there were a lot of pro prospects on both sidelines. There are a lot of positive pro traits that Mayfield has but what is most impressive is his accuracy which includes impeccable ball placement. Getting Mayfield with a short move up would be a tremendous achievement for this franchise. 5
D521646 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 There's exactly 4 people ate OBD drive that KNOW what plan A, B, and C is, and that's Both Pegulas, Beane, and McD.. I doubt even the scouts, or any other coaches know at this point. There's too much on the line, and the Bills brass know it. ANY report coming out from unnamed sources is pure garbage! Tim-
DFT Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, D521646 said: There's exactly 4 people ate OBD drive that KNOW what plan A, B, and C is, and that's Both Pegulas, Beane, and McD.. I doubt even the scouts, or any other coaches know at this point. There's too much on the line, and the Bills brass know it. ANY report coming out from unnamed sources is pure garbage! Tim- I’ll agree it’s tighter than it has been in recent memory, but the scouts are asked for specific info by the brass and are aligned to what those “ask” mean. They’re very aligned to the process and potential plan. Jeremy is tied to the scouting world, terrifically. If the scouts know, he knows. And he’s just not the guy that pulls things out of air. Edited March 28, 2018 by DFT
ddaryl Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, MJS said: Pretty sure we have a thread about every single QB being covetted by the Bills. One thing is certain: the Bills have broken one of the ten commandments. Thou shall not go 2 decades without a franchise QB
D521646 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, DFT said: I’ll agree it’s tighter than it has been in recent memory, but the scouts are asked for specific info by the brass and are aligned to what those “ask” mean. They’re very aligned to the process and potential plan. Jeremy is tied to the scouting world, terrifically. If the scouts know, he knows. And he’s just not the guy that pulls things out of air. I agree that White is pretty good overall, and I trust him, for the most part, however, this year of all years I see the loose lips sink ships even more applicable. Too much on the line, IMO. Scouts, even coaches may be asked for specifics about certain prospects, and they may even bang the table for "their" guy, but on draft day, there's 4 people that know exactly what they will do if A, B or C happens.. Tim- 1
transplantbillsfan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Please please please please please please please please let this be true!!!
DFT Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, D521646 said: I agree that White is pretty good overall, and I trust him, for the most part, however, this year of all years I see the loose lips sink ships even more applicable. Too much on the line, IMO. Scouts, even coaches may be asked for specifics about certain prospects, and they may even bang the table for "their" guy, but on draft day, there's 4 people that know exactly what they will do if A, B or C happens.. Tim- I think it’s more “bar talk”. The only thing that bothers me, is in leaking it, it damages how well-kept this all was from everyone. It’s disappointing when you think of it that way. But this is one that gave me pause, because I was sure I was reading the tea leaves and the guy was Rosen. The Bills have done a tremendous job getting rid of the scouting leaks that was the “Whaley way”. If you scouted with Whaley, you knew he was loose lipped with his draft strategy. It wasn’t intentional, but even Elaine Benes has a well-known key to her vault (Schnapps- me!). 2
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: I hope this is true. I think Mayfield has the it factor to be a really good QB. I think he's going to be a really good pro. I hate talking like this but he's a culture changer. He immediately wins the locker room and the fans. If he was two inches taller he'd be consensus #1 pick.
D521646 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, DFT said: I think it’s more “bar talk”. The only thing that bothers me, is in leaking it, it damages how well-kept this all was from everyone. It’s disappointing when you think of it that way. But this is one that gave me pause, because I was sure I was reading the tea leaves and the guy was Rosen. The Bills have done a tremendous job getting rid of the scouting leaks that was the “Whaley way”. If you scouted with Whaley, you knew he was loose lipped with his draft strategy. It wasn’t intentional, but even Elaine Benes has a well-known key to her vault (Schnapps- me!). I don't doubt that Rosen might be plan B. It is possible that he drops out of the top 10, as the press on him has been pretty negative, IMO; especially for a guy that has all the tools, and is largely considered the best pro ready day one starter out of all the top QB's this year. It makes you wonder how much the press, the rumors and all the smoke affects NFL GM's? I would hope they ignore it, and trust what they see and hear for themselves, but who knows? I think its entirely possible that Allen drops as well. He's gotten the MOST positive press, IMO, and for the life of me I just don't see it on tape? I get his measurables, and the hype, but I am hoping that there is NO WAY professional scouting and NFL GM's s ignore tape.. And if I am correct, Allen shouldn't even be drafted in the 1st round, IMO, nor should Jackson. Both have serious questions marks on accuracy and NFL IQ. If we are just watching tape, factoring in competition, and talent surrounding them, there are only 3 QB that should go in the first round. Rosen (On record as already saying that I hope the Bills do not draft him, but I think there actually might be something to the talk surrounding his effort, heart, his interviews don't change my mind on that), on tape alone, then Mayfield, and Darnold. Factor in, the "other" none QB talent available, and the top ten on this draft will likely end up going a whole lot different than most of the experts are predicting. We might see 3 QB's taken in the top ten, 4, I doubt, and 5 most certainly not. The talent level for none QB's far outweighs the "what-if this is the guy", factor, and teams will choose to draft talent and production over speculation. Tim-
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Is there a QB we’re not interested in? It seems like everyday I see a new “Bills interested in so and so” thread. It’s all pure speculation at this point.
SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 If only someone on here knew some Russians. Those guys apparently know everything! 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, mattynh said: He is absolutely not like Tyrod, Mayfield throws on time and in rhythm from the pocket a lot more than his reputation seems to say. Isn’t that because he’s in a system offense that doesn’t require progression reads?
Matt_In_NH Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Isn’t that because he’s in a system offense that doesn’t require progression reads? Mayfield is not like Tyrod, that is what we are talking about. Well that is what I am talking about anyway.
Bing Bong Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 I bumped a similar thread, we could combine I guess. My b.
oldmanfan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Near as I can tell there are rumors they're interested in all of the top 6
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I posted that in the other Baker thread....So far one is asking who it is
Logic Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 My personal opinion (I don't have any mysterious "sources"): Bills would be happy with Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen. I don't think they want Allen (they traded out of the chance to draft Mahomes last year, and Mahomes and Allen are very similar). I don't think they want Jackson ("it's a drop back league and I'm committed to that", said McDermott) or Rudolph (they didn't stockpile picks to take the 6th best QB in the class). I think they like Darnold's flawless intangibles, Rosen's excellent play from the pocket, and Mayfield's stellar accuracy and leadership abilities. I think they'd be happy with any of the three. I think they'll wait until draft night, see who falls, and trade up to get him. I WILL say this...I find the lack of "Mayfield to Buffalo" talk so far to be pretty interesting (a Jeremy White tweet doesn't really count, in my book). We've heard high placed "sources" stating interest in Darnold, Allen, and Rosen. We've even recently heard Lamar Jackson talk. But the silence around a Mayfield-Buffalo connection has been deafening. Not only that, but Beane recently, when asked about QBs, mentioned the importance of "does a team rally behind a guy?" and mentioned that Jake Delhomme was a "12 out of 10 in the leadership department". Who does that sound like to you from this draft class? And does anyone but me think that "two-time walk-on turned Heisman winner" would be appealing as heck to a guy like Sean McDermott?! Mayfield is my personal top choice in this draft, and I hope the Bills see things the way I do. 2
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