ALLEN1QB Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Not enough to trade to 4 but then we are talking Browns
metzelaars_lives Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 There isn't "a" CBS Sports mock draft. There's like six dudes on there who all do one. It doesn't mean anything anyway.
John from Riverside Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: 12, a 4th and a 2019 1st won't be enough to get from 12 to 4. They'd have to throw in a 2nd or give back the first pick in the 3rd round as well to get there. How would you know?
Big Turk Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Why do we love mock drafts so much when they are never very accurate?
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Bakin said: I prefer James Washington over Sutton. I think JW will be the best WR in the draft. He has the highest ceiling.... at the moment he can't run a route though.
thenorthremembers Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: 12, a 4th and a 2019 1st won't be enough to get from 12 to 4. They'd have to throw in a 2nd or give back the first pick in the 3rd round as well to get there. Totally disagree. I think the scenario CBS outlined is already overpaying. In your scenario they would be giving Cleveland what amounts to enough value to move up to number #2. I understand the spiel about it being a sellers market this year because of the quarterbacks, blah blah. In the scenario CBS outlined Buffalo is already over paying by a high second round value. In yours they are over paying by a 1st round value. 12, 53, and 65 is a much closer value. Edited March 30, 2018 by thenorthremembers
formerlyofCtown Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 8 hours ago, JohnC said: I don't see Cleveland trading their second first round pick at the four spot. They already have an abundance of picks and plenty of cap space. With their two high first round picks they are going to go for elite talent rather than get a quantity of good talent. Their owner has instructed the new GM that now is the time to start emphasizing winning games rather than focus on the future. The fan base is too fatigued and exasperated with the process. I think they can win with a left tackle and their current roster.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Logic said: Eric Wood (1st round) worked out pretty well until injures forced him to retire. Center is a premium spot if you want to run the ball well and don't want to get your quarterback killed. I needed to be more clear. I hope that Groy is that replacement. The Bills do need interior o lineman for the aging Incognito and the right guard spot is still a guessing game.
Tyrod's friend Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 On some level we need to look at the history of the Browns recently. If they were to take the Bills "offer" ... getting another 1st in 2019 would give them multiple first round picks 6 out of 8 years. It would amount to 17 first round picks in only 7 years. In the last five years ... ZERO Pro Bowls in 11 attempts. These guys have been the 1962 Mets among draft analysts. Yeah, I know, I know, Peppers and Garrett have a lot of potential. What- ev. Anyways, pretty much love the cbs draft. Drafted Players Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 1 2017 1 1 Myles Garrett DE 21 2017 2017 0 0 1 4 11 9 7.0 Texas A&M College Stats 2 2017 1 25 Jabrill Peppers S 21 2017 2017 0 0 1 5 13 13 1 Michigan College Stats 3 2017 1 29 David Njoku TE 21 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 16 5 1 1 0 32 386 4 Miami (FL) College Stats 4 2016 1 15 Corey Coleman WR 22 2016 2017 0 0 2 5 19 18 2 10 0 56 718 5 Baylor College Stats 5 2015 1 12 Danny Shelton NT 22 2015 2017 0 0 3 16 46 44 1.5 Washington College Stats 6 2015 1 19 Cameron Erving C 23 2015 2017 0 0 1 10 42 21 Florida St. College Stats 7 2014 1 8 Justin Gilbert DB 22 2014 2016 0 0 0 4 35 3 1 Oklahoma St. College Stats 8 2014 1 22 Johnny Manziel QB 21 2014 2015 0 0 0 5 15 8 2-6-0 147 258 1675 7 7 46 259 1 Texas A&M College Stats 9 2013 1 6 Barkevious Mingo LB 22 2013 2017 0 0 1 16 78 23 1 9.0 LSU College Stats 10 2012 1 3 Trent Richardson RB 22 2012 2014 0 0 3 17 46 37 614 2032 17 113 912 2 Alabama College Stats 11 2012 1 22 Brandon Weeden QB 28 2012 2015 0 0 1 14 34 25 6-19-0 559 965 6462 31 30 61 201 1 0 -9 0 Oklahoma St. College Stats
Playoffs? Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 I don’t see the Browns trading out of 4 unless Barkley is gone.
SoCal Deek Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Who is this Farnum kid the OP says the Giants are taking? ?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Who is this Farnum kid the OP says the Giants are taking? ? I'm assuming he meant Darnold, but I think that's a stretch.
JohnC Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: I think they can win with a left tackle and their current roster. If the Browns had functional qbing last year they would have easily won four more games. I'm not a fan of Tyrod Taylor and am glad he is off of our roster. However, if he provides the Browns with an average level of play at his position and with the addition of players from the draft and free agency this Great Lake team can take a quantum leap forward. As I and some others have said before the Browns have a better core of young players than the Bills do. In my view the big mistake that the Browns made this year is that they kept Hue Jackson. They should have moved on and started fresh. That was an owner decision; it was a mistake.
Watkins90 Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 11 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I just reviewed the latest CBS mock draft. They have us trading our 12th pick, our 4th round pick and our 2019 1st round pick to move up to 4. They have Allen to Cleveland, Farnum of to the Giants and Rosen to the Jets. The Bills going up to get Baker Mayfield, then taking WR Cortland Sutton at 22, C Frank Ragnow at 53 and LB Josey Jewell at 56. i'm ok with using our 1st in 2019 because we have so many potential starting caliber players in this draft act class and we have probably 80 million in cap space to fill holes in 2019. What are your thoughts on this two round Bills draft. 3 As someone who lives 35 minutes from where he grew up, I'd be extremely happy with his. He is actually hosting his wedding reception in the town I live in. His future wife's mother is good friends with my mother-in-law.
Bakin Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He has the highest ceiling.... at the moment he can't run a route though. He looks like Odell out there.
SoCal Deek Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Watkins90 said: As someone who lives 35 minutes from where he grew up, I'd be extremely happy with his. He is actually hosting his wedding reception in the town I live in. His future wife's mother is good friends with my mother-in-law. That’s good enough for me! I’ve read of weirder reasons on here for taking someone.
formerlyofCtown Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnC said: If the Browns had functional qbing last year they would have easily won four more games. I'm not a fan of Tyrod Taylor and am glad he is off of our roster. However, if he provides the Browns with an average level of play at his position and with the addition of players from the draft and free agency this Great Lake team can take a quantum leap forward. As I and some others have said before the Browns have a better core of young players than the Bills do. In my view the big mistake that the Browns made this year is that they kept Hue Jackson. They should have moved on and started fresh. That was an owner decision; it was a mistake. We traded parts of our core so it isn't even close, but I believe we have a far superior head coach.
Mark Vader Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Next year’s draft, outside of QB, should be a much better draft than this IMO. 2019 will be LOADED with elite DL prospects. That is the 2nd hardest thing to obtain. The Bills could regress as well. I’d use whatever from this draft before including that pick. If Cleveland is the trade partner though they’d much rather add again in 2019 as they have a lot this year. I have not had a complete look at the 2019 draft, but you are right about the DL prospects. It is most impressive. The entire starting Defensive Line from Clemson will be available. Nick Bosa from Ohio State, Rashan Gary from Michigan if he declares. People are also high on Ed Oliver from Houston.
SteveFreeman22 Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 14 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I just reviewed the latest CBS mock draft. They have us trading our 12th pick, our 4th round pick and our 2019 1st round pick to move up to 4. They have Allen to Cleveland, Farnum of to the Giants someone please translate this for me, mi englis note that gode...Farnum of to the Giants ?, even if he meant Darnold...Darnold of to the Giants ?
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