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I really do not expect this team to make the playoffs this season.  Regardless of who is QB.  We have so many holes to fill.  This is why I also don't want to spend next years #1 to move up - that would really set us back since I suspect we'll have a high pick in '19.  I HOPE AJM has something we need.  I would much rather go 4-12 than continue the path of 8-8, 7-9, 9-7 every year and get middling picks.  That is another reason for where we're at.  Many of these teams who had huge resurgences - actually had really bad years and got top 12 picks.  When we had those - we wasted them in the past 20 years.  (Mike Williams, Whitner, Lynch, McKelvin, Maybin, Spiller, Dareus, Gilmore, and Watkins).  

 

Yes, some of those guys had some success - but often elsewhere.  Sammy of course is most glaring because he cost us TWO first round picks.

 

Looking at our 1st round picks in this time - we missed way more than I thought...  No wonder there was a drought.  In the past 10 years (2007-2017 - we have exactly 3 1st round selections who are still on the roster, which includes Eric Wood).

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3 hours ago, Agent 91 said:

Werent REALLY a playoff team with Tyrod. I know very little about McCarron i hope he is an upgrade but still need to see him throw... AND WHOOOOOOS THE WR THOOOOOOOOO.

Here's all you and all need to see from AJ. 

 

He is not afraid to throw to a WR that is covered 1 on 1 (1:04 ish on). Tyrod Taylor's biggest problem as a NFL QB.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Here's all you and all need to see from AJ. 

 

He is not afraid to throw to a WR that is covered 1 on 1. Tyrod Taylor's biggest problem as a NFL QB.

 

 

Can he also bring Marvin Jones, Sanu, Green, and Eifert with him?:)

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3 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Can he also bring Marvin Jones, Sanu, Green, and Eifert with him?:)

The typical BS Bills fan response I expected. 

 

WR and TE make a QB now.? I always assumed it worked the other way around? 

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8 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Here's all you and all need to see from AJ. 

 

He is not afraid to throw to a WR that is covered 1 on 1. Tyrod Taylor's biggest problem as a NFL QB.

 

 

 

If I had to make a decision based on that video, no way am I trading up and I wouldn't even draft a QB in the 1st. Kid looks good. 

 

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1 minute ago, Looper said:

 

If I had to make a decision based on that video, no way am I trading up and I wouldn't even draft a QB in the 1st. Kid looks good. 

 

I'm by no means sold on AJ. All it shows is he doesn't play scared like Tyrod throwing the ball. I support him 100% as he will be our starter this year most likely.

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3 hours ago, dbflaBill said:

Proving my point that you know nothing. 

 

What he said was a fact, dude.

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24 minutes ago, dbflaBill said:

What does that prove? Doesnt prove/mean a damn thing. TT has been a starter the last 3 years while McCarron has been sitting the bench behind an average QB. 

lol 

 

how many years did TT ride a bench in Baltimore and while there how many games did he actually start and win ???  

 

Dalton is average?   imo he's better than Joe Flacco.  

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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

lol 

 

how many years did TT ride a bench in Baltimore and while there how many games did he actually start and win ???  

 

Dalton is average?   imo he's better than Joe Flacco.  

So McCarron has a playoff TD that makes him better than TT. By this logic your Dalton is better than Flacco statement couldnt be dumber. Flacco won a superbowl!

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19 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

That’s what I’m saying. Tyrod for 3 years had roughly a .500 record.

 

Mccaron has played what, 4 or 5 games in his career? And that’s because dalton was hurt, he didn’t earn it.

 

Will he be better? Maybe. Maybe not.

 

But as of now to claim he’s better than TT is ridiculous as he has done absolutely nothing to earn that

 

Sorry I misread your post....     AJ is 2-1 in the regular season and 0-1 in the playoffs  ----  but from what I have read and  been told by Bengals fans  AJ scored 16 points in the 4th QRT against the Steelers and the Bengals lost the game by 2 blunders by the Bengals defense lost them the game 18-16.  

 

Steelers pull out improbable win with help of late Bengals penalties

Chris Boswell kicked a 35-yard field goal with 14 seconds remaining as Pittsburgh somehow pulled out an 18-16 victory thanks to consecutive 15-yard penalties on the Bengals, one on linebacker Vontaze Burfict and another on cornerback Adam Jones.

  • Burfict dropped his shoulder and hit a defenseless Brown in the helmet as the All-Pro receiver came across the middle,  
  • Jones lost his cool after getting into it with Steelers assistant coach Joey Porter when Porter came onto the field as Brown was being tended to by trainers.
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20 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

The typical BS Bills fan response I expected. 

 

WR and TE make a QB now.? I always assumed it worked the other way around? 

No need to get upset.

 

Was just saying Mccaron at best in his short sample size has looked pretty average with some very good weapons. Much better weapons than the Bills have.

 

He is a bridge QB and may not even start the full year. I wouldn’t get too excited about him if I were you.

 

I hope you’re right and I’m wrong of course. Only time will tell 

7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Sorry I misread your post....     AJ is 2-1 in the regular season and 0-1 in the playoffs  ----  but from what I have read and  been told by Bengals fans  AJ scored 16 points in the 4th QRT against the Steelers and the Bengals lost the game by 2 blunders by the Bengals defense lost them the game 18-16.  

 

Steelers pull out improbable win with help of late Bengals penalties

Chris Boswell kicked a 35-yard field goal with 14 seconds remaining as Pittsburgh somehow pulled out an 18-16 victory thanks to consecutive 15-yard penalties on the Bengals, one on linebacker Vontaze Burfict and another on cornerback Adam Jones.

  • Burfict dropped his shoulder and hit a defenseless Brown in the helmet as the All-Pro receiver came across the middle,  
  • Jones lost his cool after getting into it with Steelers assistant coach Joey Porter when Porter came onto the field as Brown was being tended to by trainers.

All good sir.

 

Im definitely not saying he will be worse than TT. But I think he has to at least prove consistently that he’s better before we say he is.

 

Wouldn’t you agree?

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5 minutes ago, dbflaBill said:

So McCarron has a playoff TD that makes him better than TT. By this logic your Dalton is better than Flacco statement couldnt be dumber. Flacco won a superbowl!

Dalton is better than Flacco.     

 

The Ravens Defense was the best in the league and Joe Flacco played smart and the team won.   

The Ravens Defense was the best in the league and Trent Dilfer played smart and the team won.    Dilfer was let go months later.  

 

Each season in Buffalo Taylor had regressed.   You can't argue that.   

As for AJ   see my last post

 

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4 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Yeah, I agree with this, No.  However, with that caveat that I don't believe AJ dooms us, we just need a lot of help in other areas.

 

Honestly, guys, even though we are traditionally good against Tannehill are we 9-7 if he is healthy last season?

  Don't get me going on both Dolphins games from last year.  I think that the term "finish the game" is way over used in very broad strokes but it certainly fit both 4th quarters last year.  We are not always going to be able to have a timely INT to save our tails.

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1 minute ago, RochesterRob said:

  Don't get me going on both Dolphins games from last year.  I think that the term "finish the game" is way over used in very broad strokes but it certainly fit both 4th quarters last year.  We are not always going to be able to have a timely INT to save our tails.

 

 

Well said.

 

I definitely think we are better than the Dolphins.  However, I also definitely think it could have been 1-1 with them if they have a healthy Tannehill.

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3 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

All good sir.

 

Im definitely not saying he will be worse than TT. But I think he has to at least prove consistently that he’s better before we say that.

 

Wouldn’t you agree?

 

Yes, he has to prove himself as a Buffalo Bill.   The same "achievements" this seasons crop of potential QBs has,  AJ also accomplished plus he has NFL experience.  

I expected the Bills to make the playoffs in 15, 16 and 17.   Now with what I hope to be an improvement over TT I again expect the Bills to make the playoffs.

 

Proof?  I don't have any  (other than my complaining about TT was correct.  He wasn't good enough to remain on the team).    

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36 minutes ago, Looper said:

 

If I had to make a decision based on that video, no way am I trading up and I wouldn't even draft a QB in the 1st. Kid looks good. 

 

 

 

Boy Looper, I don't know.  His passing was nice, but he does seem to lock on to receivers.  On the TD inside the 10 it almost looked like he could have dropped the snap as he was staring at his target before the play even started.

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McCarron could become a Case Keenum type for the year and surprise us all. If we use our picks and add weapons to the offense and defense I don't see why we couldn't make a run if he plays decent. 3,500 yards 20 td 10 pick type year with an improved defense and solid run game just might do it.

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depends on what we do in the draft and if he can play to at least tyrods level last year. our defense was bad last year so if we can fix the run defense and get the same or better run game and a little better passing we can be a decent team. we also need house money to keep making field goals.  I think the front office has done a very good job with the d line but need to see a nice lb in the middle, another d tackle and an o lineman or two along with a wr. A lot to ask but they did it with the secondary last year. 

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1 hour ago, racketmaster said:

I suppose anything can happen but Mccaron had a chance in free agency to get paid like a starter and teams around the league balked at that. With all the openings and qb needy teams, Mccaron ends up signing a 2 year 10mil deal with the Bills who say he will compete with Peterman for the chance to start. 

 

Actual GMs around the NFL told us what they think of Mccaron and that is he is a backup or spot starter. Mccaron is being paid about as low as a veteran qb can be paid. 

 

And watching his games I would tend to agree with the NFL executives. There is nothing special about Mccaron as far as arm talent, size or mobility. He looks like and plays like a backup or low end starter. Most of his playing time took place in 2015 with a absolutely loaded wr corps and offense. Dalton put up great numbers that year as well before he got hurt. Bills don’t have AJ Green, Marvin Jones, M. Sanu, and Eifert to make his life easier.  

 

 

Good point.

 

Dalton had a 106.2 passer rating that year.  Mccarron  had a 97.1 - nearly 10 points lower with the same line and receivers.

 

What's more concerning is that Dalton was only sacked on 4.9% of his dropbacks that year while Mccarron was sacked on 9.2% of his.

 

 

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