YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) He better be careful going that far west. He might fall off the edge of the earth. Edited April 2, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 17
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 that would be stupid and hillarious at the same time 1
Mark80 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jr1 said: poor Cardale I remember when people on this board were saying Cardale would be the #1 overall pick after he won the National Championship. So funny. Just goes to show you how little a lot of people know about college QBs around here. Edited March 28, 2018 by Mark80
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) They could probably keep Cardale and Geno. Kellen Clemens is a FA. man the chargers like former 2nd rd Jets busts. Hack to Chargers next. Edited March 28, 2018 by YoloinOhio
dbflaBill Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Mark80 said: I remember when people on this board were saying Cardale would be the #1 overall pick after he won the National Championship. So funny. Just goes to show you how little a lot of people know about college QBs around here. Cardale is a perfect example of size and tools but it doesnt translate to top nfl talent. He can make all the throws is mobile, problem is his football IQ and diagnosing a defense. Coverages easily confuse him, and he doesnt process defense quick enough at an NFL level. He is definitely good enough to be an NFL backup though, and theres no shame in that.... His traits compare most to Allen in this years draft.
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Just now, dbflaBill said: Cardale is a perfect example of size and tools but it doesnt translate to top nfl talent. He can make all the throws is mobile, problem is his football IQ and diagnosing a defense. Coverages easily confuse him, and he doesnt process defense quick enough at an NFL level. He is definitely good enough to be an NFL backup though, and theres no shame in that.... His traits compare most to Allen in this years draft. I have also made that comparison of Cardale and Allen. But, Allen is more fluid from a mobility standpoint. Edited March 28, 2018 by YoloinOhio
dbflaBill Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I have also made that comparison of Cardale and Allen. But, Allen is more fluid from a mobility standpoint. Fluid cause he has better pocket presents. The better athlete is Cardale
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, dbflaBill said: Fluid cause he has better pocket presents. The better athlete is Cardale I don’t agree with that actually. In my opinion, Allen is the more athletic of the two.
Mark80 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, dbflaBill said: Cardale is a perfect example of size and tools but it doesnt translate to top nfl talent. He can make all the throws is mobile, problem is his football IQ and diagnosing a defense. Coverages easily confuse him, and he doesnt process defense quick enough at an NFL level. He is definitely good enough to be an NFL backup though, and theres no shame in that.... His traits compare most to Allen in this years draft. Cardale's accuracy issues were glaringly obvious if you actually paid attention to that Big10 Title run and National Championship run. His accuracy, or lack thereof, makes Josh Allen look like Drew Brees. Thus, the 4th round pick vs a probable 1st rounder, maybe even top 5. Edited March 28, 2018 by Mark80
dbflaBill Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Cardale's accuracy issues were glaringly obvious if you actually paid attention to that Big10 Title run and National Championship run. His accuracy, or lack thereof, makes Josh Allen look like Drew Brees. Thus, the 4th round pick vs a probable 1st rounder, maybe even top 5. Yet cardale had a higher completion percentage in college vs tougher competition I understand they Allen is probably the better QB, but in this draft he is comparable to cardale.
Mark80 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, dbflaBill said: Yet cardale had a higher completion percentage in college vs tougher competition I understand they Allen is probably the better QB, but in this draft he is comparable to cardale. See, this is what I mean about people having no clue. If you actually watched Cardale's games you would see a ton of inaccurate throws. There were deep balls to wide open guys under thrown by 10 yards, they were just so wide open they caught them still, or they would jump over the DB and catch it after they caught up. On short throws he would almost never hit a guy in stride. They would be high, behind them, or misses completely. Again, some would be caught, but still inaccurate. Finally, these teams were all stacking the box to stop Elliot and the running game, not protecting against the passing game, so guys were wide open all over the field. Completion percentage does not tell the whole story. Not even close.
MJS Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Lynn is a fan of Geno Smith? I didn't know Geno had fans.
dbflaBill Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mark80 said: See, this is what I mean about people having no clue. If you actually watched Cardale's games you would see a ton of inaccurate throws. There were deep balls to wide open guys under thrown by 10 yards, they were just so wide open they caught them still, or they would jump over the DB and catch it after they caught up. On short throws he would almost never hit a guy in stride. They would be high, behind them, or misses completely. Again, some would be caught, but still inaccurate. Finally, these teams were all stacking the box to stop Elliot and the running game, not protecting against the passing game, so guys were wide open all over the field. Completion percentage does not tell the whole story. Not even close. Yet allen is playing boarderline D2 talent and isnt a very accurate QB. Obviously Allen is the better prospect, but he very much is comparable to a guy like Cardale. Actually completion % is a stat that tells a lot.
#34fan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark80 said: I remember when people on this board were saying Cardale would be the #1 overall pick after he won the National Championship. So funny. Just goes to show you how little a lot of people know about college QBs around here. I believe Cardale is horribly underestimated as a QB... If given the same opportunity as Peterman, I seriously doubt that Cardale throws 5 interceptions in a half.
Magox Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No matter what you do, just make sure that you don't say that he has slow eyes.
Captain Hindsight Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: I believe Cardale is horribly underestimated as a QB... If given the same opportunity as Peterman, I seriously doubt that Cardale throws 5 interceptions in a half. Is the new test of competent QB play going to be the Peterman test? He likely wouldn't throw 5 INTs in a half, hes got a shot! 1 1 1
4merper4mer Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, MJS said: Lynn is a fan of Geno Smith? I didn't know Geno had fans. He has a lot. Most of them are DBs but he has a lot. 2
#34fan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: Is the new test of competent QB play going to be the Peterman test? He likely wouldn't throw 5 INTs in a half, hes got a shot! Not what I'm saying at all... Just seems to me that it was love at first sight between McD and Peterman... Didn't seem like Cardale got the same opportunity Nate did. I'd be interested to see how his first NFL start goes.
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