boyst Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I'm a fan of McCoy and dont want to see hin traded, but no way philly doesnt laugh at that trade proposal Philly would be looking for McCoy and one of the Bills firsts for probably just Foles (maybe they throw in a later pick too) McCoy is an older RB, Foles is a QB and SB MVP now. Why would they be giving up more to get the older RB when, as the narrative around here goes, RBs ate a dime a dozen and can be found anywhere? Why is the market for foles that high???
BADOLBILZ Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This holds especially true when you factor in his receiving skills. Shady is our best pass catcher now, imo and Bell is even better at that. He could be a 1,300 yard back with 70 catches to go along with it. Outside of Shady our skill players are bad. Bell could cover a lot of that taking over for McCoy. Steelers use him for another 400 touches this year and it's gotta be a hard pass. YPC drops in both run and receive. Injury history. Drug history. I think the new tackling rules should help guys like him get a bit more longevity but no thanks on giving a 7th year RB with baggage an $80-$90M 5 year deal. 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Why is the market for foles that high??? He would be our best QB AND best WR 3
boyst Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He would be our best QB AND best WR Hate you. Seriously, I know the X's and O's as good as anyone and never understand the value some of these guys have and it just dumbfounds me. Foles is the latest Ryan Fitzpatrick or at best Ginny testeverde
Ol Dirty B Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Why is the market for foles that high??? I agree with you, it shouldn't be, but that's where the eagles are attempting to set it. Other teams might not be cooperating with them though given there comments at the owners meetings that Foles will start the season in Philly. They do have experience in this, I understand it was a panic move, but Bradford wasn't worth a first imo. They're trying to do the same with Foles. 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Hate you. Seriously, I know the X's and O's as good as anyone and never understand the value some of these guys have and it just dumbfounds me. Foles is the latest Ryan Fitzpatrick or at best Ginny testeverde It would be even better if Ginny testeverde was due to autocorrect on your phone. 1
SouthNYfan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Whilst that may or may not be true Phili wants McCoy and needs him for any chance to repeat. They don't need foles. Come draft day they could bite on that idea. And I've never got the feeling that McCoy was going to play here long. And the way the draft is looking he could; 4 QBs will go top 5, a lot could happen. Your speculation is more likely accurate than mine but so what, ideas are fun. Ideas are fun Ideas that are completely unrealistic don't make sense though
row_33 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Every way you can imagine thanks, many thanks!!
WhoTom Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 It's a passing league. No way I'd sink that much of the salary cap into the RB position.
GoBills808 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No. He's trying to get the market established before Gurley's contract comes due because the Rams won't be able to afford anything near that and that is the contract that will set the ceiling for halfbacks if he outproduces Bell again in 2018. Steelers played this well, Bell is definitely a top 3 RB in the league but there simply isn't the value there, especially when you look at the production you can get from rookies on their wage scale. That said, he deserves everything he can finagle and I don't blame him for trying to maximize his value at possibly the most punishing position in football. Good luck to him.
row_33 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, WhoTom said: It's a passing league. No way I'd sink that much of the salary cap into the RB position. it's already sunk bad enough for 2018
formerlyofCtown Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Philly has stated numerous times that they want: BETTER than a 1st and a 4th for Foles, and if not, they will keep him. This isn't made up. That means they would have to value McCoy as a better than a 1st and 3rd PLUS give back another 2nd with Foles. What the hell drugs are you on, and where can I get some?? Or your second scenario is giving McCoy + 2nd for Philly 1st and Foles? What?? Then you think Barkley will even be there at 8? Just stop posting these trades you come up with, it's obvious you have no idea what the hell you are talking about and no concept of reality with these suggestions. Don't need to be a **"" if they aren't acting like an ***"""".
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Shady just led our team in receptions and rushing yards... we should pay him like a #1 WR and running back ?? Bells a beast but it don't work like that
formerlyofCtown Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Whilst that may or may not be true Phili wants McCoy and needs him for any chance to repeat. They don't need foles. Come draft day they could bite on that idea. And I've never got the feeling that McCoy was going to play here long. And the way the draft is looking he could; 4 QBs will go top 5, a lot could happen. Your speculation is more likely accurate than mine but so what, ideas are fun. There are RBs in the draft still. 36 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Why is the market for foles that high??? It's not. That is why he is still an Eagle.
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Shady just led our team in receptions and rushing yards... we should pay him like a #1 WR and running back ?? Bells a beast but it don't work like that The Bills do pay him a ton and that’s why
billsbackto81 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Why not? He's the best dual threat offensive player in the league. If an often injured WR whose posted (1) 1000 yard campaign in 4 seasons and barely is over 3k in his career can get 16 million a year then why shouldn't the best RB in football? From a team perspective, no. No GM would but he is the best at what he does and has proven it for years now. BTW: The WR's name sounds like Whammy Samkins. Edited March 28, 2018 by billsbackto81
Stank_Nasty Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Shady just led our team in receptions and rushing yards... we should pay him like a #1 WR and running back ?? Bells a beast but it don't work like that its as if bell thinks he's the first RB to ever catch a bunch of passes out of the backfield... I live in erie, pa. right on the outskirts of "stiller" country. he has been BELOVED by that fan base for most of his stay and even they have now grown cold on him. they are all fed up and ready to move on. Edited March 28, 2018 by Stank_Nasty
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills do pay him a ton and that’s why Not 17 million and shady is worth every penny Edited March 28, 2018 by Buffalo716
Don't stop billievein Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 There is not 1 team in the league that would pay him that. Sorry.
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Not 17 million and shady is worth every penny He’s older, and yes he is worth it but some people still complain about his salary
SouthNYfan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Don't need to be a **"" if they aren't acting like an ***"""". Then maybe people should stop bringing up ridiculous things about Foles trades that have already been discussed 100000 times
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