TakeYouToTasker Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Who was in charge of the government when the Patriot Act was passed? John Brennan and James Clapper as an extension of those they work for. Edited March 29, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Mass hysteria, mostly. True. 98 Senators voted for it in 2001 (1 against and 1 abstaining). Even after the mass hysteria, it was renewed in 2006 with 89 Senators voted for it (10 against - 9 Dems and 1 Independent). Now I have to take my fricken shoes off at airport security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Who was in charge of the government when the Patriot Act was passed? Uh, not me? What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 hours ago, LeviF91 said: Uh, not me? What's your point? You used a Franklin quote about giving up liberty for freedom deserves neither and seemed to imply that every leftist idea is to "give up some security for more security." Meanwhile, a Republican controlled Congress, Senate, and presidency passed the Patriot Act that which has been the biggest threat to our 1st and 4th amendment freedoms since 9/11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: You used a Franklin quote about giving up liberty for freedom deserves neither and seemed to imply that every leftist idea is to "give up some security for more security." Meanwhile, a Republican controlled Congress, Senate, and presidency passed the Patriot Act that which has been the biggest threat to our 1st and 4th amendment freedoms since 9/11. It's been almost two decades since that time, so many will never get their due for their malfeasance. A few like McCain will, however. The scandal isn't partisan. Clapper and Brennan are a consistent thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: You used a Franklin quote about giving up liberty for freedom deserves neither and seemed to imply that every leftist idea is to "give up some security for more security." Meanwhile, a Republican controlled Congress, Senate, and presidency passed the Patriot Act that which has been the biggest threat to our 1st and 4th amendment freedoms since 9/11. An illustration for you: ________________________D_______R_________________________________________________________________________________________ See that line? Imagine it's the left/right political line. Modern Democrats sit right around that D. As far as I can tell, modern Republicans sit right around that R. So Republicans are "right" in only a relative sense. At least, that's how I see it. Edited March 29, 2018 by LeviF91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 2:32 AM, KD in CA said: Where are chicot and TPS to defend the regime and remind us of the evils of capitalism? Viva la revolucion!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It's been almost two decades since that time, so many will never get their due for their malfeasance. A few like McCain will, however. The scandal isn't partisan. Clapper and Brennan are a consistent thread. I understand it's not a partisan scandal. I just thought it was a dumb post by Levi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I understand it's not a partisan scandal. I just thought it was a dumb post by Levi. What world are you living in that the Republican party is anything but leftist? Get back in the Delorean, Doc, you belong 50 years in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Socialism is not the story in Venezuela. It's a corrupt government run by people who want to be above the law. Sound familure? It should, Trump praising every blood thirsty dictator on the planet shows how jealous he is of these people. 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: What world are you living in that the Republican party is anything but leftist? Get back in the Delorean, Doc, you belong 50 years in the past. Ya, those deficit inducing tax cuts, the attempts to steal health care from millions and the automatic deference to the lords of the NRA are really left leaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Socialism is not the story in Venezuela. It's a corrupt government run by people who want to be above the law. Sound familure? Yeah, sounds like every socialistic government ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, LeviF91 said: Yeah, sounds like every socialistic government ever. Sounds like a lot of right wing dictatorships also. The contempt for democracy and the rule of law are the key factors. Those features of corrupt government are ideologically blind. Trump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) We haven't REALLY tried Pure Socialism yet !...............Sound familure? ..........(misspelling per quote ) Edited March 29, 2018 by B-Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 So all you complaint about this corrupt government have said nothing at all about the law suit against Trump's violation of the emoluments section of the constitution. I guess that's ok for him to be corrupt because he is a bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So all you complaint about this corrupt government have said nothing at all about the law suit against Trump's violation of the emoluments section of the constitution. I guess that's ok for him to be corrupt because he is a bigot. !@#$ing WHAT????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: !@#$ing WHAT????? OMG!!! OMG!!!!! %#^#***%**£+|_~€!|]]^£€>]~€>~{}€'jgtvggkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: !@#$ing WHAT????? Why are you confused sir ? The poster who constantly has a knee-jerk reaction to any post about mentioning Obama or Clinton as "switching the subject"; just took the conversation about Venezuela and Socialism to a bizarre, mistaken post about Trump "Forget it Tom, it's Gatortown" . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: Why are you confused sir ? The poster who constantly has a knee-jerk reaction to any post about mentioning Obama or Clinton as "switching the subject"; just took the conversation about Venezuela and Socialism to a bizarre, mistaken post about Trump "Forget it Tom, it's Gatortown" . do i get to play the guy who tells kittycat he's a very nosy fellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: !@#$ing WHAT????? Well, you knew it was only a matter of time before he had another "hold my beer" moment to assert his supremacy over the dipSchiffs who lately have been trying to take his title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, B-Man said: Why are you confused sir ? The poster who constantly has a knee-jerk reaction to any post about mentioning Obama or Clinton as "switching the subject"; just took the conversation about Venezuela and Socialism to a bizarre, mistaken post about Trump "Forget it Tom, it's Gatortown" . Gatortown? This is gator's world, we're all just living in it 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Well, you knew it was only a matter of time before he had another "hold my beer" moment to assert his supremacy over the dipSchiffs who lately have been trying to take his title. Yeah Tibs is a village idiot, but he's our village idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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