auburnbillsbacker Posted March 27, 2018 Author Posted March 27, 2018 11 hours ago, TigerJ said: If Buffalo does not trade out of #12, and if they draft a position other than QB at #12, I think linebacker is the most likely pick. It could be Roquon Smith or Tremaine Edmunds. After that, I think defensive tackle or wide receiver is next most likely. The tackle could be Vita Vea and the WR could be Calvin Ridley. Cornerback is not an impossible direction, but IMO it's down the list a bit. But then, that's just me. I agree. I just feel like Ward would almost certainly be the best player available is he is there at 12.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 I don’t think that the Bills go CB but Ward is really good. I also think there is little chance that he is on the board at 12. He doesn’t seem like the perfect fit for McDermott’s defense though. Ward, to me, is a guy that should be shadowing around precise route runners. His hips and feet are about as smooth as they come. He wasn’t meant to play in a zone IMO. He’s a lot like a smaller, less explosive with the ball in his hands, version of Lattimore. Ward will give receivers hell at the next level. He is like a bug that you can’t get off of you.
GunnerBill Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think that the Bills go CB but Ward is really good. I also think there is little chance that he is on the board at 12. He doesn’t seem like the perfect fit for McDermott’s defense though. Ward, to me, is a guy that should be shadowing around precise route runners. His hips and feet are about as smooth as they come. He wasn’t meant to play in a zone IMO. He’s a lot like a smaller, less explosive with the ball in his hands, version of Lattimore. Ward will give receivers hell at the next level. He is like a bug that you can’t get off of you. He is the perfect nickel. I suspect he ends up like Chris Harris in Denver who starts outside but plays almost 50% of his snaps in the slot (when the Broncos go to their nickel package). Harris is a decent outside corner but not a star outside corner.... where he is a difference maker is in the slot. He is the best slot corner in the NFL and has been critical in beating the Patriots by taking away their slot receivers and making Brady throw outside more often. Harris went undrafted.... but ask yourself now in a re-draft would you shy away from taking him in the top 10 because he makes his best plays in the slot where he spends half of his time? I think that is the question I'd be asking if I was a GM looking at Ward. Both the Bears and the 49ers have needs at corner and other than Minkah Fitzpatrick (who I think could be a corner I don't subscribe to the view he is a safety only) Ward is the only corner I have a 1st round grade on. I doubt he makes it past #9. Edited March 27, 2018 by GunnerBill 1
Kirby Jackson Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He is the perfect nickel. I suspect he ends up like Chris Harris in Denver who starts outside but plays almost 50% of his snaps in the slot (when the Broncos go to their nickel package). Harris is a decent outside corner but not a star outside corner.... where he is a difference maker is in the slot. He is the best slot corner in the NFL and has been critical in beating the Patriots by taking away their slot receivers and making Brady throw outside more often. Harris went undrafted.... but ask yourself now in a re-draft would you shy away from taking him in the top 10 because he makes his best plays in the slot where he spends half of his time? I think that is the question I'd be asking if I was a GM looking at Ward. Both the Bears and the 49ers have needs at corner and other than Minkah Fitzpatrick (who I think could be a corner I don't subscribe to the view he is a safety only) Ward is the only corner I have a 1st round grade on. I doubt he makes it past #9. Good post GB and I certainly agree. These slot receivers get by on quickness and that’s where I think Ward excels. Harris is a really good comp. I don’t see him going past 9. I don’t love this class of DBs (especially compared to the last few years). He’s a guy that will be pretty versatile and help a team day 1. I agree that he is gone in the top 10. He’s one of the best players in this draft. I’d have him a notch below Barkley, Nelson, Chubb and Fitzpatrick but in the tier with the QBs, and LBs.
GunnerBill Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Good post GB and I certainly agree. These slot receivers get by on quickness and that’s where I think Ward excels. Harris is a really good comp. I don’t see him going past 9. I don’t love this class of DBs (especially compared to the last few years). He’s a guy that will be pretty versatile and help a team day 1. I agree that he is gone in the top 10. He’s one of the best players in this draft. I’d have him a notch below Barkley, Nelson, Chubb and Fitzpatrick but in the tier with the QBs, and LBs. I have him a little lower on my big board, he is #16 on my board because I think the floor is that he is a slot "only". I am with you on this class of DBs though. I think you get past Fitzpatrick, James and Ward and it tails off pretty quick. Mike Hughes who is my #2 or #3 corner depending where you put Fitzpatrick would have been my #8 or #9 corner last year (haven't got my board exactly to hand as at work).
gobills1212 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I believe the Bills will probably break fans heart with the 12th pick and it will be the right decision. After being unable to trade up to get one of the top 3 QBs the Bills will settle on a positional player instead of reaching for the next EJ Manuel. That player will be Denzel Ward. If you don't know him, he is a CB and an athletic freak. He was an All American for Ohio State last year and by drafting him the Bills will have the best 2 CB combo in the league. I hope they are able to trade up to get the QB, but when they can't this will happen. Can he throw? Edited March 27, 2018 by gobills1212
CDogg20 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think he will be there at 12 but he also is too small for McD’s prototype CB. He’s tiny. Aren’t he and Tre the same height? Both are listed as 5-11. The internet is always right...right? Edited March 27, 2018 by CDogg20
SteveFreeman22 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: V. Vea R. Smith T. Edwards The Bills are going to draft Trent Edwards again ?? By any chance do you mean Tremaine Edmunds ? Close but no cigar.
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Aren’t he and Tre the same height? Both are listed as 5-11. The internet is always right...right? I have not seen Tre in person but I’m going to go with no.
947 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 It would have to be LB at #12 if not a QB. I think OT at #12 is more likely than CB.
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 27, 2018 Author Posted March 27, 2018 5 hours ago, gobills1212 said: Can he throw? Nope, I'm hoping for a QB. I don't believe they will be able to get one of the top 3 QBs so I'm speculating on what non QB they will take.
H2o Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 3:05 PM, auburnbillsbacker said: I believe the Bills will probably break fans heart with the 12th pick and it will be the right decision. After being unable to trade up to get one of the top 3 QBs the Bills will settle on a positional player instead of reaching for the next EJ Manuel. That player will be Denzel Ward. If you don't know him, he is a CB and an athletic freak. He was an All American for Ohio State last year and by drafting him the Bills will have the best 2 CB combo in the league. I hope they are able to trade up to get the QB, but when they can't this will happen. OP's biased and his agenda is obvious. Appropriate action needs to be taken for even suggesting such a thing. Ward is gonna be a good NFL player. I saw him compared to Chris Harris Jr. and I think that's pretty solid. 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, H2o said: OP's biased and his agenda is obvious. Appropriate action needs to be taken for even suggesting such a thing. Ward is gonna be a good NFL player. I saw him compared to Chris Harris Jr. and I think that's pretty solid. I compare him to Brad Roby
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Followed by RB at 22. Man you just beat me to it. Was going to say CB at 12 only if we go HB at 22. Who doesn't miss the days of McKelvin and Spiller? I mean, c'mon.
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