Chuck Wagon Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, turftoe said: Maybe we can be draft night snipers? If we don't get a QB, I'm ready to Tonya Harding whoever the Jets get. 2
aristocrat Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Lmao so they had an insane off season spending and building up that roster, then get in a position to get a QB in the draft, but yeah, no plan. They had plenty of cap space to keep Mo. They could have simply kept him and added Johnson and had a really good defense. Now teams will just run all over them and they have less pass rush. He was a very good d lineman. I think they actually got worse on defense even though adding johnson. Too many qbs. should have added an oline guy to protect that qb.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, purple haze said: Unless Allen is who the Jets like, in which case they aren't screwed. That is unless Allen is the QB the Bills also like and would take at #2. Yes we have to be hopeful that one of the top teams takes Allen. And, that Denver passes on QB .....and we can get up to 7....tough
Augie Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Because no matter what we offered we couldn't offer Colts #6. We would have had to swing a deal for four first. Who knows what we would offer unless they ask? Sounds more like we declined the price, but in the end it’s the same result.
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Smarter move for Indy.. only moved three spots and still came away with three 2nd round picks.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 So now let’s learn from it and sit on our hands instead of moving to 2. When another team beats us to that punch and we end up with another JP Losman....we can feel good knowing we had a “deal in place” there too (probably). Stop dicking around, move up before it’s to late and take a QB. Enough next years
TigerJ Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Beane wasn't willing to pay the price. Simple as that. If they had a deal it would have gotten done. Jets offered more including a more attractive draft spot. It's not eBay. Jets didn't outbid them by $1 with 5 seconds left. Bills made their offer, Jets beat it, Bills not willing to beat it or get into a bidding war, Colts made the deal That may well be the case. The Jets were desperate and by traditional valuations significant overpaid to move up to #3. Some would call it bold. Some would call it foolhardy. In any case, Beane has a strict eye on value. I don't see him getting into a bidding war to trade for a premium draft pick. The other possibility is that McBeane think there is a QB that they can get later on who is not so inferior to the top ones that they can't win with him. 1
purple haze Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, horned dogs said: Yes we have to be hopeful that one of the top teams takes Allen. And, that Denver passes on QB .....and we can get up to 7....tough I have no idea who Beane likes. Will be interesting to see who Bills get if they do trade up. Rosen might be available at 4.
Alphadawg7 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 52 minutes ago, Augie said: Why would we not get a chance to up the ante. That makes no sense to cut off bidding. Well they might have and Beane declined to up his offer. Plus, its not just about the compensation, its about the player Colts covet too. So they may have preferred the Jets offer so they can still try and land someone they covet that wouldn't be there at 12. So its not as cut and dry as "best compensation" as part of the trade impacts where the Colts pick next and who they want. There are some sick prospects who will be at 6 that are all massive needs for the Jets.
Doc Brown Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Well they might have and Beane declined to up his offer. Plus, its not just about the compensation, its about the player Colts covet too. So they may have preferred the Jets offer so they can still try and land someone they covet that wouldn't be there at 12. So its not as cut and dry as "best compensation" as part of the trade impacts where the Colts pick next and who they want. There are some sick prospects who will be at 6 that are all massive needs for the Jets. Did the Jets trade up again?
BillsFan17 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, aristocrat said: They had plenty of cap space to keep Mo. They could have simply kept him and added Johnson and had a really good defense. Now teams will just run all over them and they have less pass rush. He was a very good d lineman. I think they actually got worse on defense even though adding johnson. Too many qbs. should have added an oline guy to protect that qb. So your basing your entire synopsis on the Jets having no plan because they let Wilkerson walk? The same guy who was benched by the team because of his off field utter lack of concern his team... That makes total sense.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 My guess is why trade up to 3 if the Jets would just trade up to 2 or 1. So maybe the Bills had a chance to beat the Jets offer but decided to go higher. It's pretty obvious right now that if Beane doesn't get a trade done it's a huge failure.
Augie Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Well they might have and Beane declined to up his offer. Plus, its not just about the compensation, its about the player Colts covet too. So they may have preferred the Jets offer so they can still try and land someone they covet that wouldn't be there at 12. So its not as cut and dry as "best compensation" as part of the trade impacts where the Colts pick next and who they want. There are some sick prospects who will be at 6 that are all massive needs for the Jets. That’s basically my point, in response to the people who say we never saw it coming. We would have had a chance to offer more, but it wasn’t in the cards. Our FO didn’t “fail” because the Jets made the offer. We couldn’t “block” that. Maybe we thought we had until draft day, but we still had a chance to give up more. It was a decision on our part. We’ll know if it was right or wrong in a few years. I still trust the FO, but I know we won’t be 100% correct. Maybe we should have sucked more last year? I’m not going there...
NewEraBills Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: So now let’s learn from it and sit on our hands instead of moving to 2. When another team beats us to that punch and we end up with another JP Losman....we can feel good knowing we had a “deal in place” there too (probably). Stop dicking around, move up before it’s to late and take a QB. Enough next years 2 might not even be for sale. Sure it's a target but it might not be for sale. Face it, we might get screwed out of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield. We just might get the door slammed in our face no matter what we are offering. The pick has to be for sale. 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: My guess is why trade up to 3 if the Jets would just trade up to 2 or 1. So maybe the Bills had a chance to beat the Jets offer but decided to go higher. It's pretty obvious right now that if Beane doesn't get a trade done it's a huge failure. That's only if those picks are up for sale. I don't think they are and that's why the Jets got 3.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Sounds like Bills trying to cover their ass with the fans in case they can't trade up. "Well we tried guys!" No excuses. Do what is necessary Beane. Trying and failing is much worse.
Augie Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 I’m just hoping the Jets whiff and we nail it! WHERE you pick is important. WHO you pick is critical!
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: 2 might not even be for sale. Sure it's a target but it might not be for sale. Face it, we might get screwed out of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield. We just might get the door slammed in our face no matter what we are offering. The pick has to be for sale. That's only if those picks are up for sale. I don't think they are and that's why the Jets got 3. If they are for sale few teams can top the Bills offer. The Bills pick in 2019 looks like a top 5 pick right now. Edited March 25, 2018 by TheTruthHurts
MAJBobby Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: Also, if the Colts said "we've got a deal" and got off the phone with us, only to call the Jets, or field a call from the Jets, eff them forever. Feeling like 2004 all over, having a supposed deal done to move up and the other team backing out. Yep 2004 all over again and we are going to miss out on a top QB
Doc Brown Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yep 2004 all over again and we are going to miss out on a top QB Or 1999 where Couch, McNabb, and Akili Smith went 1, 2, 3 and Culpepper fell to 11. Edited March 25, 2018 by Doc Brown 1
stinky finger Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 53 minutes ago, horned dogs said: Oh god please not more of this! Get a real !@#$ing franchise QB. Tell me again - who are the sure bet QBs?
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