K D Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 The target at 1 would be Darnold. Problem is I don't think he's any good. Similar style to Alex Smith or Joe Flacco. Game manager who thrives off play action and roll outs. I'm not a fan. 1
Thurman#1 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Turk71 said: The Bills may or may not have contacted the Browns. We will have more as this interesting story develops. 18 minutes ago, Turk71 said: The Bills may or may not have contacted the Browns. We will have more as this interesting story develops. Again, the negative story didn't say we didn't contact them. It said there had been no "discussions." There is room for all three stories to be correct.
Reed83HOF Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, Thurman#1 said: Again, the negative story didn't say we didn't contact them. It said there had been no "discussions." There is room for all three stories to be correct. Shrodinger's trade 1
Chuck Wagon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, kdiggz said: The target at 1 would be Darnold. Problem is I don't think he's any good. Similar style to Alex Smith or Joe Flacco. Game manager who thrives off play action and roll outs. I'm not a fan. If the Browns trade him, he’s sure to be good. I couldn’t begin the imagine the nuclear meltdown from the fans in Cleveland if they trade away the #1 pick, yet again take a QB later.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: If the Browns trade him, he’s sure to be good. I couldn’t begin the imagine the nuclear meltdown from the fans in Cleveland if they trade away the #1 pick, yet again take a QB later. No sense in getting wound up on this. They aren't trading out of #1. 1
RochesterRob Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: You don't think you can build a reasonably good team around a fella like Darnold in three or four years? Draft, plust FA (we have a lot of money next year) -- and it's five years for a first round rookie contract. You can't presume incompetency. If you do, then why play at all? You go get a franchise qb with the thought it is the most crucial piece and hardest to get in football. It might take all of those 3 or 4 years to build that roster you refer to. Draft picks don't always pan out and FA's fail to adapt or get lazy after getting paid. Then there is the fact that none of these QB's prospects have any known connection to the area and might just hate being here period. Maybe they grew up being a fan of another team and it was always their goal to play for that team. You take your chances on those potential pitfalls with a single pick or at the most a FEW picks versus SEVERAL picks. Bet the farm might mean manure on your face when the gamble fails.
K D Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: If the Browns trade him, he’s sure to be good. I couldn’t begin the imagine the nuclear meltdown from the fans in Cleveland if they trade away the #1 pick, yet again take a QB later. If they are going to take Allen anyhow at 1 then it would be smart to trade 1 and take him at 4
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: If they are going to take Allen anyhow at 1 then it would be smart to trade 1 and take him at 4 There's no guarantee he'd be available at #4 if that's who they like most.
Tyrod's friend Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Why wouldnt there be talks? Maybe the Browns would even ask for less than G-Men who knows? Don't think its happening though. Browns already have lots of picks. They are taking Sam IMO. Something tells me that if the Bills ever wound up with the pick they would likely do the same. The Browns are more likely to be interested in future first round picks than anything from this years draft. #1 2019 #1 2020 + #12
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: You don't think you can build a reasonably good team around a fella like Darnold in three or four years? Draft, plust FA (we have a lot of money next year) -- and it's five years for a first round rookie contract. You can't presume incompetency. If you do, then why play at all? You go get a franchise qb with the thought it is the most crucial piece and hardest to get in football. There are going to be a lot of teams with a money to spend next year, we don't usually land the top FA unless we over pay. The core of this team will need to be built through the draft.
BuffaloRush Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, ******* said: Per Benjamin Albright . There was conflicting reports about this but he is 100 percent positive there have been talks to gage the price This would not surprise me. But just because they called, doesn’t mean there was an offer etc. In his presser Beane said he called a number of teams about QB’s, just to get an idea of their value. They werent always interested in the QB, but want to use hat information to determine how much to pay a QB like Mcacarronz
Tyrod's friend Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, ******* said: Per Benjamin Albright . There was conflicting reports about this but he is 100 percent positive there have been talks to gage the price In other news ... Donald Trump has called California delegates to reconsider their Presidential preferences.
Chuck Wagon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: There's no guarantee he'd be available at #4 if that's who they like most. I’d have to think a deal with the Giants to flip 2 and 4 would be a prerequisite. Browns could give up #64 and a later pick without even flinching. I agree it won’t happen, but if the Bills need to give up a ransom to get a guy, may as well get YOUR guy, perhaps Cleveland really wants Allen but doesn’t want to take the backlash of picking him over Darnold (though they’d still get it).
K D Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: There's no guarantee he'd be available at #4 if that's who they like most. True but if rumors are to be believed I think it would go 1. Bills - Darnold 2. Giants - Chubb 3. Jets - Rosen 4. Browns - Allen Then Cleveland picks again at 12 and 22. Derwin James and Mo Hurst perhaps? 1
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kdiggz said: True but if rumors are to be believed I think it would go 1. Bills - Darnold 2. Giants - Chubb 3. Jets - Rosen 4. Browns - Allen Then Cleveland picks again at 12 and 22. Derwin James and Mo Hurst perhaps? Don't believe it and they are already loaded with picks. Edited March 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 2
Chuck Wagon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: There are going to be a lot of teams with a money to spend next year, we don't usually land the top FA unless we over pay. The core of this team will need to be built through the draft. Everyone always blames the location in FA, but I firmly believe the lack of a QB is a bigger factor. When Green Bay actually targets a FA, they don’t usually miss, you think guys really want to live in Wisconsin over Dallas?
sven233 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Some may or may not agree, but if I were the Browns I would absolutely trade the 1st pick to the Bills! I wouldn't have to think about it for very long at all. Contrary to what most think, the Browns already have quite a bit of talent on their team. Coupled with the fact that they already had a ton of high picks in this draft, and the additional haul of high picks from the Bills they could get this year, the Browns could be a legitimate Super Bowl contender in a year or 2. As you all know by now, I have 3 QBs rated very closely this year in Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield. I am not high on him, but maybe the Browns even love Allen as well. The Browns are in a prime position with that pick at 4 to get pretty much any one of these guys they want, aside from whoever the Bills would take at 1. The could possibly trade up from 4 with the Giants to get to 2 if they want, or they could just sit tight if they have a good idea of who the Jets are taking at 3. The Browns, with the talent they do have already, and if they were to pick 4 / 12 / 22 / 33 / 35 / 53 / 56 / 64 / 114 / 150 / 175 / 205 (plus 2019 1st x2) as mentioned above, could conceivably compete for a Championship in 2 years. If the Bills were in this situation and we had the top pick in this draft and some team was offering all this to me, I would be begging the Bills to trade the 1st pick. It's a no-brainer if you ask me, if I'm the Browns. What a way to set your team up for the next 5-10 years with all those picks. The only problem is, we would have to be competing with them and find a way to beat that team with all that talent to get to where we want to go! Honestly, it is a win-win for both the Bills and Browns to make this happen.
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