formerlyofCtown Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Have you done the things that JF has done? Domestic assault? Not take your job seriously? If you were blackballed in your field, wouldn't you want to show people you can be upstanding by taking a job somewhere and do well? Your paycheck is less important right now. Yup I was young and dumb once as well. He is just a kid. Are you perfect or just enjoy throwing stones. You understand the pressure he was probably under in his youth.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Author Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: Yup I was young and dumb once as well. He is just a kid. Are you perfect or just enjoy throwing stones. You understand the pressure he was probably under in his youth. That's some grade A excuse making there.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Yup I was young and dumb once as well. He is just a kid. Are you perfect or just enjoy throwing stones. You understand the pressure he was probably under in his youth. I'm done explaining it.
formerlyofCtown Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm done explaining it. I understand it completely and don't agree with you. 39 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's some grade A excuse making there. I feel the way I feel for a reason. I have my beliefs and you have yours. We don't have to agree. But it's called empathy if your interested. I'm not condoning anything I'm just walking in his shoes for a minute.
Lfod Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: I understand it completely and don't agree with you. I can understand being young and dumb. I can't understand being young and dumb till the point your an adult pissing away a golden opportunity to be a legend and to line your pockets doing the thing you love after getting into the NFL. That he hasn't done anything but slick talk to earn a second chance. I can understand being young and dumb and losing your first job at McDonald's at 16. This dude was past his college years and into his adult life in the NFL. Pressure is what turns coal into diamonds. If he couldn't handle the pressure back then he probably can't handle it now. I think people are just saying the guy did have a pretty good opportunity already being drafted into the NFL. Now Johnny is on the outside looking in talking about his cloud 9 and 39 dreams. He wants to take two step forwards after taking a step back. If you can drink your probably 21 and considered an adult then! You can drive! It's probably time to be an adult because by then your actions have consequences. I can show pictures of gravestones of young and dumb people I knew. It's not always a laugh it off situation. Edited March 24, 2018 by Lfod
Chicken Boo Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Why not? Do I really need to rehash all the stupid **** Johnny did to destroy his own career? What has he done to deserve another shot?
formerlyofCtown Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Lfod said: I can understand being young and dumb. I can't understand being young and dumb till the point your an adult pissing away a golden opportunity to be a legend and to line your pockets doing the thing you love after getting into the NFL. That he hasn't done anything but slick talk to earn a second chance. I can understand being young and dumb and losing your first job at McDonald's at 16. This dude was past his college years and into his adult life in the NFL. Pressure is what turns coal into diamonds. If he couldn't handle the pressure back then he probably can't handle it now. I think people are just saying the guy did have a pretty good opportunity already being drafted into the NFL. Now Johnny is on the outside looking in talking about his cloud 9 and 39 dreams. He wants to take two step forwards after taking a step back. If you can drink your probably 21 and considered an adult then! You can drive! It's probably time to be an adult because by then your actions have consequences. I can show pictures of gravestones of young and dumb people I knew. It's not always a laugh it off situation. But by the grace of God there go I. 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Do I really need to rehash all the stupid **** Johnny did to destroy his own career? What has he done to deserve another shot? Deserve? I guess he got back up and tried life again in spite of all the people like you guys. That apparently made at most only one mistake and immediately corrected it. I guess me and Johnny are all alone in that regard.
Lfod Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: But by the grace of God there go I. Deserve? I guess he got back up and tried life again in spite of all the people like you guys. That apparently made at most only one mistake and immediately corrected it. I guess me and Johnny are all alone in that regard. I think your heart in the right place. I think you are drawing similarities in your life to Johnny's life. As far as addiction and recovery goes, obviously you root for a person to recover. I think that is the place the similarities end. At one point he was a high draft pick in the NFL. Kudos to him for that because that in itself is an incredible achievement that not many people will achieve. So why didn't he take the CFL route to prove that he has changed and fully focused on football? It was rumored the contract was out there and he turned it down. It has a feeling of a guy that feels he is entitled to an NFL job. I don't think he is entilted to a job in the NFL. It isn't because he had a drinking problem. I think he doesn't deserve a shot because he skipped the CFL route and placing all his hopes into showing up at a PRO day and being seen. That doesn't sound like a guy with the attitude of doing everything and anything to prove he's serious about the job. That sounds like a guy with a big ego that wants to skip past building his reputation up because he's still living in the past. I was drafted I should be able to walk right back in the NFL. I think you and Johnny are not realizing that the CFL would be him picking up the pieces and getting it together. It's a QB starved league. He's betting on a teams desperation instead of a team scouting him in the CFL reformed playing well and worthy of another try in the NFL. So instead of seeing a season of proof the guy is on track in the CFL to change my mind. I only see him show up for one pro day. Edited March 24, 2018 by Lfod
jr1 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Johnny's twitter feud with actor Michael Rappaport was amusing
KW95 - JA17 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Another player speculation and another poster writing: watch the Pats, the Pats will pick him up. Blah blah! 1 hour ago, Lfod said: I think your heart in the right place. I think you are drawing similarities in your life to Johnny's life. As far as addiction and recovery goes, obviously you root for a person to recover. I think that is the place the similarities end. At one point he was a high draft pick in the NFL. Kudos to him for that because that in itself is an incredible achievement that not many people will achieve. So why didn't he take the CFL route to prove that he has changed and fully focused on football? It was rumored the contract was out there and he turned it down. It has a feeling of a guy that feels he is entitled to an NFL job. I don't think he is entilted to a job in the NFL. It isn't because he had a drinking problem. I think he doesn't deserve a shot because he skipped the CFL route and placing all his hopes into showing up at a PRO day and being seen. That doesn't sound like a guy with the attitude of doing everything and anything to prove he's serious about the job. That sounds like a guy with a big ego that wants to skip past building his reputation up because he's still living in the past. I was drafted I should be able to walk right back in the NFL. I think you and Johnny are not realizing that the CFL would be him picking up the pieces and getting it together. It's a QB starved league. He's betting on a teams desperation instead of a team scouting him in the CFL reformed playing well and worthy of another try in the NFL. So instead of seeing a season of proof the guy is on track in the CFL to change my mind. I only see him show up for one pro day. He denied the CFL contract because of his hand size. He never new they played with bigger balls!
Chicken Boo Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 4 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: But by the grace of God there go I. Deserve? I guess he got back up and tried life again in spite of all the people like you guys. That apparently made at most only one mistake and immediately corrected it. I guess me and Johnny are all alone in that regard. Whatever man. Put some more Johnny posters up on your wall. Maybe one day he can make you proud. Likely not though.
Saxum Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 The important question was NOT answered - was there an open bar?
alluro Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) There is little to zero downside to bringing him into camp and seeing first hand if he's changed or merely acting for the cameras. On the flip side, the guy was one of the greatest college players of this generation and a first round pick in the NFL draft. Odds are he probably won't be the answer, but it wouldn't hurt to kick the tires on him when you are looking at AJ McCarron, Peterman, and a rookie in the QB stable. At the very least, Manziel would give the Bills some national buzz and media attention. He may even help sell some tickets for all of the folks who still believe in Johnny Football. Edited March 24, 2018 by alluro
Boatdrinks Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Do I really need to rehash all the stupid **** Johnny did to destroy his own career? What has he done to deserve another shot? No, his idiotic self destruction was well documented. Deserving anything or not is irrelevant. He might be able to play Quarterback at the highest level. That''s probably good enough for another shot. At least to the people who are actually calling them.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, frostbitmic said: I've heard of him, let's sign him. Johnny Manziel's potential NFL landing spots: Eight team fits By Nick Shook NFL.com Manziel has a 'shot' at being signed by NFL team after 13 teams attended his pro-day workout 1) Buffalo Bills: We entered the offseason with a handful of teams demonstrating a clear need at the quarterback position, and all but one -- Buffalo -- found at least a short-term answer. With the Bills' current best option being AJ McCarron and second-best Nathan Peterman, this franchise is squarely in the market for another signal-caller. Much has been made about the Bills' ability to trade into the top five to grab a quarterback, but taking a flier on Manziel wouldn't be a crazy idea. After all, it is where he struck his famous coffin pose. Edited March 24, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973
Cynical Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, alluro said: There is little to zero downside to bringing him into camp and seeing first hand if he's changed or merely acting for the cameras. On the flip side, the guy was one of the greatest college players of this generation and a first round pick in the NFL draft. Odds are he probably won't be the answer, but it wouldn't hurt to kick the tires on him when you are looking at AJ McCarron, Peterman, and a rookie in the QB stable. Manziel is proof people fall in love with the "flash" and image of a player instead of paying attention to the actual player. Johnny Football owes his collegiate career and draft position to Evans and the other Aggies receivers. They bailed Johnny out constantly. 37 minutes ago, alluro said: At the very least, Manziel would give the Bills some national buzz and media attention. He may even help sell some tickets for all of the folks who still believe in Johnny Football. Rex Ryan created a national buzz and media attention for the Bills. How did that work out? Until somebody can show me proof that a correlation exists between media attention and a better team on the field, this has to be one of the stupidest rationale to acquire anyone, whether its a HC or at best, a camp fodder QB. Besides, do you think somebody will actually run out and buy Bills tickets just because JF made the camp fodder list?
alluro Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 It would be foolish to think media attention and hype doesn't lead to more ticket sales. Even if you don't think it will improve the team on the field, the Bills will want those extra ratings and sales. I think Manziel is a better talent than AJ and Peterman and there is little if any downside to bringing him into camp and letting him have a shot.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 25, 2018 Author Posted March 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, alluro said: It would be foolish to think media attention and hype doesn't lead to more ticket sales. Even if you don't think it will improve the team on the field, the Bills will want those extra ratings and sales. I think Manziel is a better talent than AJ and Peterman and there is little if any downside to bringing him into camp and letting him have a shot. He's not going to be invited to camp.
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