CuddyDark Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 5:54 PM, MrEpsYtown said: This is a good point. They may still have a really positive relationship as Bettcher left before Hughes was traded. But the fact is that he Hughes wasn't great for Indy. His best year for them was 2012, which was the only season James Bettcher was his coach. So it could be something, or it could be nothing. Expand I believe Jerry Hughes was on the team for a full year with Bettcher as has LB coach. I think there's a better chance they'd want Lawson. Lawson played the same role in college they have with Chandler Jones or with some of the other 34 sams they had there. Lawson could play right outside and move down to six technique which Hughes never could because of his size. Just look at the list they had there in Arizona, John Abraham, Lamarr Woodley, Alex Okafor, and Chandler Jones.
fridge Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 5:31 PM, CuddyDark said: He failed at 3-4 OLB when the Giants DC was his LB coach. Expand He didn't really fail. He played less than half the snaps there, started 7 games in 3 years and got a lot of ST play. Hughes had 5 sacks in 7 starts there, and I'm pretty sure they regret trading him away.
snamsnoops Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 5:29 PM, dbflaBill said: What? Hughs is more a 3-4 rush LB than he is a 4-3 D end. Expand No, he is best suited as a DE in the 43. At least that is how his carrier has played out. Don't let a Defense scheme get in the way. Just get a player and they can play wherever. This is what i was told today anyways!
Green Lightning Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 I think trading JPP for picks means they are staying put at #2.
CuddyDark Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:11 PM, fridge said: He didn't really fail. He played less than half the snaps there, started 7 games in 3 years and got a lot of ST play. Hughes had 5 sacks in 7 starts there, and I'm pretty sure they regret trading him away. Expand Then why did they trade him? Easy he was drafted to play 43 RDE. When they went to a 3-4 they didn't like him as a fit, so they traded him.
Bills4life1924 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) On 3/22/2018 at 6:14 PM, Green Lightning said: I think trading JPP for picks means they are staying put at #2. Expand They only got a 3rd for him, and swapped 4th rd picks.. They only gained 1 pick with the trade. Now they have a whopping 6 picks. I don't believe this changes what they do with their 2nd overall pick Edited March 22, 2018 by Bills4life1924
Green Lightning Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:18 PM, Bills4life1924 said: They only got a 3rd for him, and swapped 4th rd picks.. They only gained 1 pick with the trade. Now they have a whopping 6 picks. I don't believe this changes what they do with their 2nd overall pick Expand Hope so B4L. Certainly adds to the drama and it's going to continue for FN weeks more!
fridge Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:14 PM, CuddyDark said: Then why did they trade him? Easy he was drafted to play 43 RDE. When they went to a 3-4 they didn't like him as a fit, so they traded him. Expand No, it's not "easy". Jerry would thrive as a blitzing LB in a 3-4. 1
Wagon Circler Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 5:58 PM, LedyardCTbillsfan said: It is more likely to be Lawson IMO Expand Yes. Lawson is a good fit in a 3-4. Not a particularly good fit in our 4-3. The minute I heard about JPP, I thought we are packaging Lawson in a deal with the Giants. It fits. 2
Bills4life1924 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:21 PM, Green Lightning said: Hope so B4L. Certainly adds to the drama and it's going to continue for FN weeks more! Expand Got that right. I actually like all the speculation, but would love to hear the bills are trading up sooner rather than later (unfortunately ur prob right and is gonna be weeks to hear anything) On 3/22/2018 at 6:22 PM, Wagon Circler said: Yes. Lawson is a good fit in a 3-4. Not a particularly good fit in our 4-3. The minute I heard about JPP, I thought we are packaging Lawson in a deal with the Giants. It fits. Expand Not to mention, giants could afford shaq, Hughes would be pushing their budget
Green Lightning Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:24 PM, Bills4life1924 said: Got that right. I actually like all the speculation, but would love to hear the bills are trading up sooner rather than later (unfortunately ur prob right and is gonna be weeks to hear anything) Expand I think Beane is going to play this close to the vest and not make a call until the draft begins. So those who enjoy the speculation will have plenty more and those who burn stomach lining over this are in for a long few weeks! I go back and forth! 1
QCity Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Not the craziest thing I've heard today. He's got a $10M cap hit and can disappear for months during the season.
formerlyofCtown Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:11 PM, fridge said: He didn't really fail. He played less than half the snaps there, started 7 games in 3 years and got a lot of ST play. Hughes had 5 sacks in 7 starts there, and I'm pretty sure they regret trading him away. Expand Stats aside Hughes played great last year. He was our best DL. 2
CuddyDark Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) On 3/22/2018 at 6:21 PM, fridge said: No, it's not "easy". Jerry would thrive as a blitzing LB in a 3-4. Expand But that's not their scheme. We're talking about the Giants. Their DC uses a Sam/RDE who can both blitz and play 6,5, and 4 technique. That is not Jerry Hughes. It so much not Jerry Hughes that when he was being coached for that system with the same coach he was traded because he didn't fit. Edited March 22, 2018 by CuddyDark
fridge Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 6:36 PM, CuddyDark said: But that's not their scheme. We're talking about the Giants. Their DC uses a Sam/RDE who can both blitz and play 6,5, and 4 technique. That is not Jerry Hughes. It so much not Jerry Hughes that when he was being coached for that system with the same coach he was traded because he didn't fit. Expand Except he did fit, they were horribly run, impatient, and overvalued Kelvin Sheppard. 1
CuddyDark Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) On 3/22/2018 at 6:42 PM, fridge said: Except he did fit, they were horribly run, impatient, and overvalued Kelvin Sheppard. Expand Or he didn't fit, they thought he was a bust and they traded him. Edited March 22, 2018 by CuddyDark
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