BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Don't mean to start a new thread, hopefully it's not a repeat. So, I'm currently working at Penn State University as a carpenter remodeling dormrooms as well as building new ones. I was excited to be there yesterday for the pro day. Had hoped to see some NFL execs, etc. Nope. Seen absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. And I thought that was odd, since some folks believe Barkley could go 1st overall, or even top 10. That said, its been reported that not one single NFL RB coach was in attendance, so Barkley decided to not participate at the pro day. Now I just wonder, and am looking for feedback, does this mean he is Not seen as a prospect worthy of any consideration within the top 10? Or do you suppose that he did all his interviews, and showed all he had to, at the combine? Personally, I doubt very highly he goes top 10. Just wondering if this is normal for potential top picks, or is this an indication of his stock falling due to his position? 1
Hebert19 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think the tape when it comes to him speaks for itself. If you need a rb and he falls...you take him. But most expect he will be gone early.
Chuck Wagon Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think he hit a home run at the combine and all the teams are tired of their RB coaches telling them to pick him. 1 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) It’s actually not normal for a player to decide not to work out just because position coaches aren’t there. Position coaches don’t usually attend pro days. Might see QB coaches, but not RB coaches. He didnt need to work out though regardless Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Hebert19 said: I think the tape when it comes to him speaks for itself. If you need a rb and he falls...you take him. But most expect he will be gone early. But NO Position coach from the NFL in attendance?Just thought it very odd... Just now, Chuck Wagon said: I think he hit a home run at the combine and all the teams are tired of their RB coaches telling them to pick him. Lol. Probably so
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: But NO Position coach from the NFL in attendance?Just thought it very odd... Usually HCs, scouts, FOs, coordinators. Only position coaches that go are to run drills. Not to evaluate. Doesn’t matter what position it is either. You can see DL coaches running RB drills. Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio
White Linen Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s not normal for a player to decide not to work out just because position coaches aren’t there. Position coaches don’t usually attend pro days. Might see QB coaches, but not RB cosches. Why do you think that was his reason for not participating then?
Big Turk Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 They already have what they want, very few teams think they can realistically get him and most basically feel it would be a waste of time...what is going to do, make a few cuts or something?
BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 In fact, local radio here said that he had nobody "here to see him", so he passed altogether on the day. Just wonder why he wouldn't go through with it since it was already scheduled/planned. Weird 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: They already have what they want, very few teams think they can realistically get him and most basically feel it would be a waste of time...what is going to do, make a few cuts or something? Due dillegence and all?
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, White Linen said: Why do you think that was his reason for not participating then? He didn’t need to. Crushed the combine. I’ll be surprised if Denzel Ward works out at OSU tomorrow. Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He didn’t need to. Crushed the combine. I’ll be surprised if Denzel Ward works out at OSU tomorrow. I get that. But don't teams want to see him work? Regardless of past performances? Seems like a work ethic thing, at the least. Idk... He was scheduled to perform, and then didnt Edited March 21, 2018 by BuffAlone
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I get that. But don't teams want to see him work? Regardless of past performances? Seems like a work ethic thing, at the least. Idk... He was scheduled to perform, and then didnt No I don’t think they care. Pro days are more for the guys who didn’t do everything at the combine for whatever reason and guys who didn’t get invited to the combine. If the combine workout was complete and the player is satisfied, they won’t work out at pro day or may only do certain things. I think his reasoning was odd but the decision wasn’t. Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio
BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: No I don’t think they care. So you're telling me that NFL execs don't care if a potential high 1st round pick backs out of a predetermined and scheduled workout because no position coach is in attendance? I call BS on that notion. They All wanna see All they can from Every prospect, let alone a potential top 10
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: So you're telling me that NFL execs don't care if a potential high 1st round pick backs out of a predetermined and scheduled workout because no position coach is in attendance? I call BS on that notion. They All wanna see All they can from Every prospect, let alone a potential top 10 Not in this case. If a team wants to draft him they will hold a private workout. Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio
BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Not in this case Really? Absolute due diligence in every instance but This one? Maybe he's already got the gold jacket then lol. Personally, I think it hurt him. Of ALL position groups, RB's are a dime a dozen. With this lackadaisical attitude, this leaves as lasting an impression as his combine performance, imo. But thanks. I just wondered what others thought
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) He killed Combine. He can stand in that and didnt need a proday. Happens actually alot. That prospect stand in Combine workouts. Edited March 21, 2018 by MAJBobby
NewEra Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: So you're telling me that NFL execs don't care if a potential high 1st round pick backs out of a predetermined and scheduled workout because no position coach is in attendance? I call BS on that notion. They All wanna see All they can from Every prospect, let alone a potential top 10 I don’t think this would change a teams mind about drafting him. He’s special.
BuffAlone Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: He killed Combine. He can stand in that and didnt need a proday. Happens actually alot. That prospect stand in Combine workouts. Does it? Link?
NewEra Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, BuffAlone said: Really? Absolute due diligence in every instance but This one? Maybe he's already got the gold jacket then lol. Personally, I think it hurt him. Of ALL position groups, RB's are a dime a dozen. With this lackadaisical attitude, this leaves as lasting an impression as his combine performance, imo. But thanks. I just wondered what others thought You are completely overreacting
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Does it? Link? Yeah go through the years. You will see players staying in Combine numbers and doing interviews only etc etc quick google search https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2016/03/ex-rutgers_receiver_leonte_carroo_skips_pro_day_as.amp lee skipping 40 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ocregister.com/2014/03/12/on-track-for-first-round-of-draft-lee-skips-40-at-pro-day/amp/ Trent Richardson screwed the Combine and still skipped Proday went on his tape only https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bucsnation.com/platform/amp/2012/3/6/2850116/2012-nfl-draft-trent-richardson-skips-alabama-pro-day-after-failing Edited March 21, 2018 by MAJBobby
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