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  On 4/24/2018 at 5:29 PM, YoloinOhio said:

I could be totally wrong but I personally think all of the Allen stuff is coming straight from the Bills. On purpose. 

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I knew this was the case when I saw someone saying that the Bills were "deliberately" making their Allen love known. 

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  On 4/24/2018 at 4:39 PM, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t have a lot of Bills info usually. But I have info on Rosen from a college connection who heard about his Bills workout. Just a small thing. Fwiw the Pegulas love him. They are REALLY into tennis and feel it’s a huge benefit for him as a pro QB. And Rosen really likes the culture of the team and the minority female owner. They got along really well. That’s all I know. Peace! 

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Makes a lot of sense. Really hope he is the pick. 

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Posted
  On 4/24/2018 at 5:30 PM, Carter said:

 

He is.  Jewish is a race, not a religion...

 

 

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not to belabor this discussion, but Jewish is first a religion, although beliefs and practices vary widely between orthodox, conservative, reform, reconstructionist branches .It is second a culture, although again, attitudes,  values, practices, the way one conducts his/her life, and interacts with other jews and non-jews varies widely.  Finally, I personally know white jews, black jews, asian jews. A race-not really.   Rosen sounds like what would be called a secular Jew. 

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Man Thursday can't come here fast enough. It's hard to believe that Rosen will slide past 2, but (if it's not us picking him at 2), I hope he does. He is such a stellar prospect. 

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  On 4/24/2018 at 6:21 PM, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

not to belabor this discussion, but Jewish is first a religion, although beliefs and practices vary widely between orthodox, conservative, reform, reconstructionist branches .It is second a culture, although again, attitudes,  values, practices, the way one conducts his/her life, and interacts with other jews and non-jews varies widely.  Finally, I personally know white jews, black jews, asian jews. A race-not really.   Rosen sounds like what would be called a secular Jew. 

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What science tells us is one thing but I have Jewish people in my family and they and their ancestors are adamant it is a race

 

Othodox Judaism says you are only Jewish if your mother is . It is passed maternally .  That is how they trace their lineage and why they say they are a unique race 

 

but as you said, white Jews, Asian Jews etc...

 

you are only Jewish if your mother is by law . My father being Jewish does not make me Jewish according to law

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  On 4/24/2018 at 7:06 PM, Buffalo716 said:

 

What science tells us is one thing but I have Jewish people in my family and they and their ancestors are adamant it is a race

 

Othodox Judaism says you are only Jewish if your mother is . It is passed maternally .  That is how they trace their lineage and why they say they are a unique race 

 

but as you said, white Jews, Asian Jews etc...

 

you are only Jewish if your mother is by law . My father being Jewish does not make me Jewish according to law

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Reform judaism says you're a jew if either parent is a jew  and you're raised as a jew. You're right as to orthodox belief. As I said, beliefs and practices are all over the place, so much so that jews themselves differ over who is a jew.  

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  On 4/24/2018 at 7:06 PM, Buffalo716 said:

 

What science tells us is one thing but I have Jewish people in my family and they and their ancestors are adamant it is a race

 

Othodox Judaism says you are only Jewish if your mother is . It is passed maternally .  That is how they trace their lineage and why they say they are a unique race 

 

but as you said, white Jews, Asian Jews etc...

 

you are only Jewish if your mother is by law . My father being Jewish does not make me Jewish according to law

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people can also convert to Judaism.  This is a dumb as hell derail, who the f cares if Rosen is a practicing Jew or not

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  On 4/24/2018 at 7:46 PM, dorquemada said:

 

people can also convert to Judaism.  This is a dumb as hell derail, who the f cares if Rosen is a practicing Jew or not

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I can care less. I respect everybody and I’m not derailing anything 

 

i affirmed which someone else said which was some Jewish people believe they are their own race 

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Posted
  On 3/21/2018 at 3:05 PM, BillsSbSoon said:

That doesnt really bother me that much. I want a pocket passer. I like baker but he does that because of his size

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We don't have the o line for a pocket passer and if we give up too many picks to move up we can't build the requisite o line nor fix up the WRs. 

Posted
  On 3/21/2018 at 3:01 PM, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Just because I'm not sure what other thread to put this in, but per their NFL.com draft profiles:

 

Rosen completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move.

 

Mayfield completed 67 percent when on the move.

 

Would not have thought there would be such a big difference between the two. 

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unfortunately that's a skewed stat because ROsen was always on the move as his line was a turnstile. I do think Mayfield is a lot better on th emove but not that big of a gap under the same circumstances

Posted (edited)
  On 4/24/2018 at 7:52 PM, Carter said:

 

Karmas a B word boys...

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It is a good job I don't believe in karma either then. 

  On 4/24/2018 at 8:30 PM, Nineforty said:

He said in his recent espn magazine interview that he is agnostic.

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I'll take it. 

  On 4/24/2018 at 7:52 PM, dorquemada said:

 

oh, edgy internet atheists.  thank you so much for taking the time to virtue signal to the buffalo bills fan community how stridently atheist you are!  Take that, Mom and Dad!

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Oh come on a little joke about that fact that he shares my take on religion in a thread talking about his religion? Chill out. 

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Posted (edited)
  On 4/24/2018 at 8:09 PM, sleeby said:

 

We don't have the o line for a pocket passer and if we give up too many picks to move up we can't build the requisite o line nor fix up the WRs. 

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nonsense. Line looks bad right now but that wouldnt stop me from taking a worthy pocket passer. The line can be worked on. 

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Posted
  On 4/24/2018 at 4:59 PM, JinxedBill1 said:

Nothing wrong here.  This shouldn't be an issue.  If we don't pick a QB because he doesn't believe in a higher power I will lose it. 

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Nothing much to lose (exactly what were you going to lose, your car keys?).

  On 4/24/2018 at 4:57 PM, garybusey said:

 

You don't need to be Catholic to attend a Catholic school.

 

You just need $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to afford it.

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Nonsense.  Plenty of Catholic schools give scholarships to needy students.

  On 4/24/2018 at 5:27 PM, GunnerBill said:

He is coming. The Rosen One is coming. Go forth and spread the word. 

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No!  The Rosen One will result in multiple board crashes throughout draft.'

 

You were talking about THE Rosen One, Jay Rosen, right?

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