Kwai San Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: OP and Savior Peterman never seen in the same place at the same time. Coincidence? I think not.... Few QB's in their NFL debut have flamed out as spectacularly as Peterman did in his. Does it mean he's not worthy? Time will tell. Thought the same thing about our OP here and the MIA SP..... 1
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 i don't think Mcbeane are rushing to judgement. Peterman was never considered a top notch prospect. My take if everything came together for him he could have a Ryan Fitzpatrick career, if not he would be a cheap back up moving from team to team .
JohnC Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I said the EXACT same thing about Yates last year (and was right). More than half of the NFL teams only carry 2 QBs. The Bills have Thomas and may bring back Webb. Those guys have each started NFL games at QB. They can finish a game in an emergency (did last year). You can add a more capable player on the street on Monday. Peterman hasn't shown that he belongs on the roster. Better prospects, Garrett Grayson, haven’t made it to year 2 either. I don’t think Peterman is good and so far I am right. If you look back and agree that Peterman was the right option in LA we disagree (and I was right on that too). It's not a question of agreeing with Peterman starting. It's that I understand why he started in place of Taylor. There was a frustration and exasperation by Taylor's play that made the staff resort to making a desperate move. And it was his play in general why I was confident that he was not going to be on the roster this year. What was inevitable turned out to be inevitable. (And I was right on that.)
Tenhigh Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: OP and Savior Peterman never seen in the same place at the same time. Coincidence? I think not.... Few QB's in their NFL debut have flamed out as spectacularly as Peterman did in his. Does it mean he's not worthy? Time will tell. We all know that SP has been in high level business meetings, completely explaining why he and the Skydiver are never both on at once. Nothing to see here, move along..... 3
SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Honestly everyone want to move up for Rosen etc, which im all for... But yes, How is Peterman going to look? AJ McCarron may turn out to be pretty dang good, plus we could Draft a Mason Rudolph @ #12, Maybe a plan like that the Bills fill they can win, if you keep all those top 100 picks this year and next and build around whoever..... Can this bullshi*t stop? Please? There is no way he is drafted at #12. If he is, Beane should be fired and banned from the NFL.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: It's not a question of agreeing with Peterman starting. It's that I understand why he started in place of Taylor. There was a frustration and exasperation by Taylor's play that made the staff resort to making a desperate move. And it was his play in general why I was confident that he was not going to be on the roster this year. What was inevitable turned out to be inevitable. (And I was right on that.) Yeah, he was traded elsewhere where he will start. You don’t just start a start a bum because he is different. You don’t just draft a guy because he is there and you are set on getting a QB (see EJ). Peterman got a chance that most 5th round QBs never see and failed MISERABLY. Why should he keep getting opportunities that he doesn’t deserve? Bad QBs come and go all of the time. The people that thought he was an option were woefully wrong. It may very well have been the decision that cost Dennison his job. He was the one pushing for it and was proven wrong. Peterman is fighting desperately for a roster spot. He should be praying that th Bills don’t trade up. If they do he is 50/50 at best. No reason to protect a 3rd string QB with limited upside. You can keep an extra RB, WR, OL, DL, etc.. that can actually play and help the team. Asked another way, how will Peterman help the team more than Brandon Reilly?
CEN-CAL17 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Can this bullshi*t stop? Please? There is no way he is drafted at #12. If he is, Beane should be fired and banned from the NFL. Yeah folks said the same when I said Carr should go Top 15....
CircleTheWagons99 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Love the people ragging on the rookie after his first start but want to keep TT after 7 years of proving nothing......some people just want to watch the world burn......
SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Yeah folks said the same when I said Carr should go Top 15.... And? Carr graded as a first round pick and had a cannon coming out of college. Rudolph isn't even close to his arm talent. 1
KW95 - JA17 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, dneveu said: 2 of his picks were out routes, where the timing was great but the trajectory was bad and they sat on the routes. Both were basically pick 6's (ramsay fell down or something i can't remember and don't care to watch it) You talking about the defensive interference on that play against the Jags? or the drop by a great catcher in Dimarco, or the 0.2 seconds he had to release the ball in SD. Had he been smart, he would have taken the sacks and make the O-line look bad! I don't know anyone other than the coaches make a decision on the kid with a few games under his belt.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Love the people ragging on the rookie after his first start but want to keep TT after 7 years of proving nothing......some people just want to watch the world burn...... Which player do you think will have a better career? What percent chance do you think Peterman has of starting for 4 years? It was MAYBE 2% before the Chargers game (based on the history of guys picked there). In the middle of a playoff chase the 2% chance was a stupid decision and cost the OC his job.
MJS Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 His problem was firing passes predictably and DB's jumping his routes. He needs to actually read the defense instead of just turning and firing. Looks like he is accurate enough, but doesn't have a steller arm. Who knows?
JohnC Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, he was traded elsewhere where he will start. You don’t just start a start a bum because he is different. You don’t just draft a guy because he is there and you are set on getting a QB (see EJ). Peterman got a chance that most 5th round QBs never see and failed MISERABLY. Why should he keep getting opportunities that he doesn’t deserve? Bad QBs come and go all of the time. The people that thought he was an option were woefully wrong. It may very well have been the decision that cost Dennison his job. He was the one pushing for it and was proven wrong. Peterman is fighting desperately for a roster spot. He should be praying that th Bills don’t trade up. If they do he is 50/50 at best. No reason to protect a 3rd string QB with limited upside. You can keep an extra RB, WR, OL, DL, etc.. that can actually play and help the team. Asked another way, how will Peterman help the team more than Brandon Reilly? I'm optimistic about the future of this franchise not because Taylor is on the roster but because he is off of it. No doubt that Dennison was very influential in Peterman starting the Charger game. But let's not forget that McDermott was the one who made the decision. You and I will not agree on this issue. What I have said before and continue to say is that I understand why the decision was made. The Peterman issue now is really inconsequential. Let this issue go Kirby and let that agitation in your stomach settle down. If I really wanted to provoke you I would force you to rewatch the qb play in the Jacksonville game.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm optimistic about the future of this franchise not because Taylor is on the roster but because he is off of it. No doubt that Dennison was very influential in Peterman starting the Charger game. But let's not forget that McDermott was the one who made the decision. You and I will not agree on this issue. What I have said before and continue to say is that I understand why the decision was made. The Peterman issue now is really inconsequential. Let this issue go Kirby and let that agitation in your stomach settle down. If I really wanted to provoke you I would force you to rewatch the qb play in the Jacksonville game. FWIW, it was Dennison that pushed for it. I know that to be the truth. I watched Peterman take 4 snaps against Jax, he fumbled, took an international grounding and got picked. Glad to see that encouraged you. I honestly hope that they cut that bum so that we can stop having people like you defending him when he doesn’t deserve it. You hated Tyrod who was a serviceable starter (the league concurs). Yet you are more than willing to give a roster spot to a guy coming off THE WORST HALF IN NFL HISTORY!! Peterman sucks and will never play in a game for the Bills again. He will be a distant 3rd on the depth chart if by the 50/50 chance he makes the team. I will be back at that point to say I was right, just like I did in the Matthews thread. If a guy sucks, he sucks. He doesn’t need to be defended. Edited March 21, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 2
Jauronimo Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I ask it the other way around. Why do people believe in Peterman so much more than Levi Brown? They were both long shots with limited ability. Agreed. Given the opportunity, I think Levi could have thrown 12 picks in one half of football. 2
Ol Dirty B Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Sky Diver said: One round before Brady. Warner wasn't even drafted. And they had how many interceptions in the first half of their first game? You're mentioning aberrations, they aren't to be relied on. You don't make decisions off of outliers.
K D Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 these arguments for Peterman are absolutely ridiculous. he was a 5th round pick for a reason. people didn't think he was very good. they put him in and guess what, he wasn't very good. they didn't expect much and they didn't get much, he is who he is. maybe some day he will be good enough to be a backup but we aren't in the position to sit around and wait. we need a QB that can complete a pass to our own players and not just to the other team 1
Ol Dirty B Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Love the people ragging on the rookie after his first start but want to keep TT after 7 years of proving nothing......some people just want to watch the world burn...... Wow if I could ban you I would. Starting Peterman is essentially watching the world burn. Your the reason that the saying "The most popular guy on a losing team is the back up QB" exists. Tyrod is an NFL caliber QB. Peterman showed he wasn't
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