Southern Bills Fan Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Add in that he is not poised when pressured. He completely melts down and makes poor decisions. This is just a ridiculous statement. The guy has hardly played and was a rookie. There is plenty of film of him in college making plays under pressure as well as some nice throws under pressure in the Colts game. He may or may not pan out but your "expert" opinion based on less than 2 full games of action is laughable.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: A weak arm that give DBs no fear of getting beat deep in combination of panic under pressure is a recipe for failure. Easy for the to squat on routes with plenty of opportunities for interceptions as he have seen. Not starting material. 2 of his picks were out routes, where the timing was great but the trajectory was bad and they sat on the routes. Both were basically pick 6's (ramsay fell down or something i can't remember and don't care to watch it)
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, dneveu said: 2 of his picks were out routes, where the timing was great but the trajectory was bad and they sat on the routes. Both were basically pick 6's (ramsay fell down or something i can't remember and don't care to watch it) No enough arm to drive it on those routes. CBs salivate when he plays. On to the 2018 draft. Edited March 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
bmur66 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think yes. It's possible he could improve and make some eat their words. I think he throws a nice ball. The big difference from playing catch with Tyrod is that the receiver better be ready because that ball may be coming right now. Not like Tyrod where the receiver is wide open waiting for him to throw it. I think Peterman will be much better in an offense that uses quick timing passes. But what do I know?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) There is a MAJOR difference of thinking a guy will play one way or another and then there is what he could do if he has a season of starts to pass judgment on. I have as much knowledge of what he is as anyone else here. To think you know is not fact but opinion. 9 minutes ago, dneveu said: 2 of his picks were out routes, where the timing was great but the trajectory was bad and they sat on the routes. Both were basically pick 6's (ramsay fell down or something i can't remember and don't care to watch it) 26 NateHater made up his mind midway through preseason. Argue with him and you can expect snark and insults instead of well thought out reasons OE a CopyPaste of someone else’s thoughts. Yes he sucked in the Chargers game but not in others. Edited March 21, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
corta765 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) No he was drafted as a 5th round pick with limits to his arm strength and 99% of 5th round QBs turn into nothing. In his only true start he threw 5 INTs. Saints and Colts were some good some bad. So in his limited work he had the worst half by a QB ever, people don't forget that stuff. If he is something then he will prove so come training camp, pre season, etc.. Edited March 21, 2018 by corta765
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, JohnC said: I see him being more entrenched on the roster than you do. If he is the third qb then so be it. The injury rate is high so I wouldn't be so readily to extract him from the roster. Would I want him as a replacement qb for a four game stretch? I would be troubled by that much extensive play. But I do think that he is a smart guy who knows the offense and will maybe not help you much but might not hurt you much when you have to resort to using him. In a league noted for its attrition rate there is a utility and role for this back end player. I’ll give the same answer I said last year with Yates (and he was cut). If you can pick the guy back up of the street (or even a better option) why use the roster spot on him? If you cut Peterman he almost assuredly makes it back to the PS (unless Dennison gets his way again). If he doesn’t, who cares? Cutler, Stanton, Gabbert, Geno, EJ, Cassel, Anderson, Moore, Sanchez and Osweiler all are out there. Some will remain unsigned. If, god forbid, your QB goes out for an extended period would you rather have Peterman or one of those guys as your number 2? They have all had more success than him to date. 1
HamSandwhich Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Yes many fans are completely giving up on him way too soon. This
Sky Diver Posted March 21, 2018 Author Posted March 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, rodneykm said: I was on his side even after the Chargers game. What really changed my mind was the last throw against Jacksonville. To me, that showed that his arm strength is not good enough to make the throws he'll need to make at the NFL level. That being said, I think he can still be a decent backup to help a team out for a couple of games a year if needed. I hope I'm 100% wrong and he turns out to be the next Tom Brady. To me it was just a bad decision.
Matt_In_NH Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Yes, he threw 5 picks in 2 quarters....when else has that ever happened?
McBean Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Bold prediction: Nate wins the starting job for next year. jk 1
JPP Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I ask myself this.....would i be comfortable if he had to take over and start a game next season for my Bills....a resounding hell no!
VADC Bills Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 He should be cut and I really liked the pick when it was made in last years draft. However with a week of prep he threw 5 picks in the first half of the Charger game. He doesn't have the arm. I think J Webb is better. Peterman should go.
Da webster guy Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, RiotAct said: he did pretty well in the Snow Game against the Colts, all things considered. And a nice drive at end of Saints game. The San Diego game seemed like a great place to start him at the time, because that stadium was not loud at all and there would be no issues with sound. The biggest problem was that we could not handle Bosa and the Chargers pass rush. Mills was such a mess that day--he can hold his own in run blocking but he whiffed repeatedly and Peterman had a guy in his face all day. Obviously the first pick wasn't his fault, DiMarco's stone hands were. But the biggest problem he showed was not enough zip on the out routes that day, and trying to do too much. That might be his downfall for the pro's, although at training camp he seemed to have a cannon on those sideline throws. I specifically remember thinking that watching guys catch his passes from 30 feet away--this guy can rope this ball when he wants to. Go to camp this year and judge it yourself. Good showing at the Indy game, although I couldn't see much with a frozen face. . Edited March 21, 2018 by Da webster guy
HamSandwhich Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, mattynh said: Yes, he threw 5 picks in 2 quarters....when else has that ever happened? Plenty of anomolies happen in this world. Do you honestly think that he will do that again? Is something that happened once suddenly how the world works? Nate is not any one game, the over reaction is ridiculous.
starrymessenger Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, dneveu said: 2 of his picks were out routes, where the timing was great but the trajectory was bad and they sat on the routes. Both were basically pick 6's (ramsay fell down or something i can't remember and don't care to watch it) If we are talking about the same plays, where Thompson was the target, one was an overthrow (I dont think it lacked pace) and in the other it was Thompson who "sat" on the route. I could be wrong but for now I can't comfortably conclude that the guy has no place on an nfl roster. I think part of his problem may be overcompensating by putting a little too much mustard on the ball at times, sort of how Fitz did from time to time. Question remains whether he can make the throws if he tones it down a bit. Lack of talent or lack of experience? I dont feel like I can say for sure. Yet.
DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Yes there is. And it’s a shame, because he’s actually a talented football player that they seem very high on.
Woodman19 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 To me the biggest test is this year, a rookie is a rookie and they make stupid mistakes for a variety of reasons. Can he come back and learn to take less risky throws now that he has seen NFL defenses pick you apart on imperfect decisions?
dpberr Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 He wasn't ready for prime time. You could tell the game was too fast for him. He was put in some crap spots too by the coaching staff. Starting a game in a playoff run, in place of the benched starter, a snow game, and the last desperate gasp of the wild card game. Training camp will be interesting to watch because I think he'll be improved over last year, perhaps with a better plan for the offense too.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Da webster guy said: And a nice drive at end of Saints game. The San Diego game seemed like a great place to start him at the time, because that stadium was not loud at all and there would be no issues with sound. The biggest problem was that we could not handle Bosa and the Chargers pass rush. Mills was such a mess that day--he can hold his own in run blocking but he whiffed repeatedly and Peterman had a guy in his face all day. Obviously the first pick wasn't his fault, DiMarco's stone hands were. But the biggest problem he showed was not enough zip on the out routes that day, and trying to do too much. That might be his downfall for the pro's, although at training camp he seemed to have a cannon on those sideline throws. I specifically remember thinking that from 30 feet away--this guy can rope this ball when he wants to. Go to camp this year and judge it yourself. Good showing at the Indy game, although I couldn't see much with a frozen face. You can throw the Saints' game in the trash. They simply didn't care up 47-3. I wish he showed up in San Diego instead of LA He was okay against the Colts (5-10 for 57 yards) and he did make a couple of nice throws to Benjamin. 5 minutes ago, dpberr said: He wasn't ready for prime time. You could tell the game was too fast for him. He was put in some crap spots too by the coaching staff. Starting a game in a playoff run, in place of the benched starter, a snow game, and the last desperate gasp of the wild card game. Training camp will be interesting to watch because I think he'll be improved over last year, perhaps with a better plan for the offense too. Why do you think so? 6 minutes ago, DFT said: Yes there is. And it’s a shame, because he’s actually a talented football player that they seem very high on. Is that why they are traversing the country to prod, poke, and examine every QB in the 2018 draft while positioning themselves to select one in the 1st round?
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