Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 He's still on the team. Many people felt Kirk Cousins was trash his first couple years. Let the kid develop.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: He's a 5th round pick...lets get real. He played like a UDFA most of the time.
PolishDave Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 7:09 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: A trained eye should have known to give up in TT early last season. Give up and do what? They had 2 other quarterbacks on the team - Webb and Peterman. They tried the second best guy for a game. He embarrassed himself, the coaches and the Buffalo Bills organization with record setting bad play. So, HOW do you suggest they would have given up in a better way? Play (throw it to the other team)Peterman at QB the rest of the year and shoot for record number of interceptions in a season ever?
Kirby Jackson Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He played like a blind UDFA with no arms most of the time. FIFY Edited March 23, 2018 by Kirby Jackson
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He played like a UDFA most of the time. I remember 2 good QBs Eli Manning and Donavon McNabb looking like UDFA in their 1st starts. It's not how you start your career.
JMF2006 Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: If we trade up and draft one of the top 3 QBs and he has a bad game, do we throw him under the bus? Corrected........Under the Bust
Kirby Jackson Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: I remember 2 good QBs Eli Manning and Donavon McNabb looking like UDFA in their 1st starts. It's not how you start your career. 1 one was picked 1st overall, 1 was picked 2nd. That’s 170 picks ahead of Peterman. I would say that it’s fair to believe that they were more highly thought of prospects wouldn’t you?
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: I remember 2 good QBs Eli Manning and Donavon McNabb looking like UDFA in their 1st starts. It's not how you start your career. Comparing Peterman to McNabb and Eli is laughable based on the disparity in talent. It's nonsense.
Irv Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Bad Game? That's like saying 9-11 was an off day. Edited March 23, 2018 by Irv 2
JMF2006 Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Peterman will get a chance to compete and show if he's improved in training camp. There is no reason to cut him anytime before final cutdowns. As long as he doesn't have to throw a sideline out he will be fine 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: 1 one was picked 1st overall, 1 was picked 2nd. That’s 170 picks ahead of Peterman. I would say that it’s fair to believe that they were more highly thought of prospects wouldn’t you? That's not the point. The point is we shouldn't rush to judgement on young QBs. Todd Collins, Rob Johnson, JP Losman, and EJ Manuel were all benched before starting a full 16 games. We are so fast to label QBs busts.
NoSaint Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 8:28 AM, Sky Diver said: Plenty of QBs who have had illustrious careers have had horrible starts. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000445192/article/troy-aikman-peyton-manning-among-qbs-with-bad-first-starts The only rush seems to be a group that wants him to be better than he probably is... he’s a day three guy for a reason. Maybe he surprises but probably not.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Comparing Peterman to McNabb and Eli is laughable based on the disparity in talent. It's nonsense. Again, not even the point.
NoSaint Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: 1 one was picked 1st overall, 1 was picked 2nd. That’s 170 picks ahead of Peterman. I would say that it’s fair to believe that they were more highly thought of prospects wouldn’t you? I think the bills should give me a fair shot. I might not get the job done the first week, but just you wait.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Again, not even the point. There is no point when you try to hold out hope for him by comparing him to QBs who were 1st and 2nd overall picks in their respective draft classes.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 My biggest fear with trading up for a QB is will the fans turn on him if he doesn't light it up his 1st year?
Kirby Jackson Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: That's not the point. The point is we shouldn't rush to judgement on young QBs. Todd Collins, Rob Johnson, JP Losman, and EJ Manuel were all benched before starting a full 16 games. We are so fast to label QBs busts. You are missing the point then. Guys like Levi Brown, Brian Brohm, Jeff Tuel are the types of prospects that compare to Peterman. They were extreme long shots (outside of Brohm) that looked terrible. Those guys don’t get he same rope as the 1st overall pick!!!
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: There is no point when you try to hold out hope for him by comparing him to QBs who were 1st and 2nd overall picks in their respective draft classes. I don't care at all about Peterman at this point. We could have this conversation about QBs we labeled franchise QBs.
PolishDave Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: That's not the point. The point is we shouldn't rush to judgement on young QBs. Todd Collins, Rob Johnson, JP Losman, and EJ Manuel were all benched before starting a full 16 games. We are so fast to label QBs busts. It's the nature of the NFL. The pressure on coaches to be decisive is immense. They can get away with erroring on the side of caution. They get fired sooner for erroring on the other side. An example of that mentality is when Rex chose to punt late in the Miami game even though he knew it would very likely cost the Bills the season. In Rex's case he got fired anyway - but his mentality was that of trying to save face. Edited March 23, 2018 by PolishDave
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, PolishDave said: It's the nature of the NFL. The pressure on coaches to be decisive is immense. They can get away with erroring on the side of caution. They get fired sooner for erroring on the other side. I have watched this fan base bury QB's fast. If Josh Rosen plays like Jared Goff did his 1st year I doubt Rosen survives. 1
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