DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 2:42 PM, HappyDays said: Actually Petrino helped him develop his passing game quite a bit. Here's a really good article about it: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662128-the-education-of-lamar-jackson-how-louisville-qb-went-from-project-to-superstar Expand Love the article, but we’ll Agree to disagree. My opinion is he developed him to fit his program. He left a lot on the table for future development. We haven’t even scratched the surface of what this kid can do. I mean no disrespect to Coach P, either, because it’s so easy for me to critique the job he did, from my office, without putting in any effort outside of a key stroke, but I would have loved to see him a bit more developed, mechanically. We’ll see though. I’m very high on him as a developmental project.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) On 3/21/2018 at 2:45 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Cool story. Then apparently there's nothing to discuss. Expand You're right it is a great story! Unless you are an NFL scout and are correct and they're all wrong. Maybe you're Chris Trapasso. There is no argument otherwise that Rudolph is so much better talent than our 5th round guy he should go with #12. Edited March 21, 2018 by horned dogs
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Personally I'd take Lamar at 12 since he will be gone by 22. Rudolph might be there in the early 2nd round. I think LJ has a higher ceiling. 2
Paul Costa Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think Jackson has as good of a chance as the top 4 guys in being a franchise QB. I would be happy if Bills get him with either pick in round 1. Rudolph to me would be a solid pick with our second round picks. I also like Mike White with pick 65 if we take BPA with our first 4 picks. The Bills are much higher in Peterman than I am. But that has to be included in the overall thought process.
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 2:41 PM, Wayne Arnold said: He's bigger, stronger, a better leader, throws a more accurate ball. Your turn. Expand Bigger - yes Stronger - who knows Better Leader - unlikely given McCarron's college career More Accurate - debatable Rudolph looks like a mid round prospect. He doesn't have any elite traits.
RochesterRob Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 1:45 PM, Buffalo Bills Detective said: And what has Mike White done to deserve 2nd round consideration? Expand Good prototype in terms of height and weight. Good if not spectacular completion percentage and TD's in his junior and senior seasons. Level of competition hurts so second round and likely bottom half of that round. We have the first pick of the third round so he may very well be there.
BillsVet Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 1:39 PM, chris heff said: John Elway had 33 rushing TDS and rushed for 3400 yards. Expand In 16 NFL seasons? I wouldn't call that a "running QB." On 3/21/2018 at 1:39 PM, RochesterRob said: Take White in the 2nd and temper the expectations. We have close to 100M next year and could trade picks to a team facing a salary issue and needing to unload a QB or would be willing to trade a QB. Far better value in players we can use such as with Vea or R Smith. Don't reach with your 12 or 22. Expand Buffalo Bills fans have been tempering expectations for decades. Continuing that won't make the team better by taking a lesser ranked prospect and/or a LB/DT/WR.
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 If Rudolph goes in the first round I will totally eat crow and admit that I am wrong. I just hope all the supporters do the same when he goes in the third or fourth round and we never hear of him again.
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Such a limited argument. Hard to take the guy seriously when all he talks about is completion percentage.
HappyDays Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 2:48 PM, DFT said: Love the article, but we’ll Agree to disagree. My opinion is he developed him to fit his program. He left a lot on the table for future development. We haven’t even scratched the surface of what this kid can do. I mean no disrespect to Coach P, either, because it’s so easy for me to critique the job he did, from my office, without putting in any effort outside of a key stroke, but I would have loved to see him a bit more developed, mechanically. We’ll see though. I’m very high on him as a developmental project. Expand That's fair, but every QB in the 1st round will need some development. Darnold needs to work on his throwing motion and interceptions, Rosen on not taking big hits in the pocket, Mayfield on his footwork, etc. With Daboll here Jackson should be able to fit into our offensive system. I've come around to seeing him as my favorite QB in the 1st round. Especially since we don't need to give up anything to get him. 1
RochesterRob Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:06 PM, BillsVet said: In 16 NFL seasons? I wouldn't call that a "running QB." Buffalo Bills fans have been tempering expectations for decades. Continuing that won't make the team better by taking a lesser ranked prospect and/or a LB/DT/WR. Expand And when has reaching ever worked? Whitner? McCargo? Maybin? Just as easy to reach at QB as it is at other positions. We were more than a QB away during the decade of darkness.
DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:15 PM, HappyDays said: That's fair, but every QB in the 1st round will need some development. Darnold needs to work on his throwing motion and interceptions, Rosen on not taking big hits in the pocket, Mayfield on his footwork, etc. With Daboll here Jackson should be able to fit into our offensive system. I've come around to seeing him as my favorite QB in the 1st round. Especially since we don't need to give up anything to get him. Expand Agreed! Gives the organization a chance to see what they have in their other two guys, while Jackson develops. 1
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:02 PM, jrober38 said: Rudolph looks like a mid round prospect. He doesn't have any elite traits. Expand Oh. 2
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:22 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Oh. Expand He doesn't have any elite traits. Aside from size, everything he does is just average.
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:27 PM, jrober38 said: He doesn't have any elite traits. Aside from size, everything he does is just average. Expand He was an elite college quarterback. Much more so than Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. You can't be an elite college quarterback without elite traits.
Rob's House Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Rudolph because McCarron needs a solid back up, or Jackson because he needs someone to throw to.
DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:29 PM, Wayne Arnold said: He was an elite college quarterback. Much more so than Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. You can't be an elite college quarterback without elite traits. Expand Boy, you sure can, but I get your point.
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) On 3/21/2018 at 3:29 PM, Wayne Arnold said: He was an elite college quarterback. Much more so than Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. You can't be an elite college quarterback without elite traits. Expand Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan disgree. I don't think he was elite. He was a good Big XII QB similar to Landry Jones or Bryce Petty. They weren't elite either, and were both 4th round picks. I agree that none of Rosen, Darnold or Allen were elite either. Not sure any of them are a slam dunk, and I think Allen is going to be a colossal bust. Edited March 21, 2018 by jrober38 1
xRUSHx Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:03 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Expand Great video thanks for sharing
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