HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Beane wasn't here when Jones was picked. Fair enough. I'm not even against them. I just think too much is made of that and was poking a little fun at it. I haven't seen an example when any GM or coach truly subscribe to the high character thing. They all make concessions at some point to get a talent they want.
PaattMaann Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Let me put it this way, you don't have a bad trip and decide to try and jump out of a window. But a bad trip can trigger a manic elisode that leads to you trying to jump out a window. Once you have a manic episode, they can reccur without the use of drugs, as well, so there is no direct link between a drugs presence or absense. a bad trip can CERTAINLY make you think you can fly/"go fight with Jesus" bro, sorry you've never had bad good drugs Edited March 21, 2018 by PaattMaann
teef Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Let me put it this way, you don't have a bad trip and decide to try and jump out of a window. But a bad trip can trigger a manic elisode that leads to you trying to jump out a window. Once you have a manic episode, they can reccur without the use of drugs, as well, so there is no direct link between a drugs presence or absense. 2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: a bad trip can CERTAINLY make you think you can fly/"go fight with Jesus" bro, sorry you've never had good drugs i think you're both right here. 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Sounds familiar 911 caller describes Ole Miss star Robert Nkemdiche as 'covered in blood' after fall https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/12/13/10032718/ole-miss-robert-nkemdiche-window-fall Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
BringBackOrton Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Drugs can contribute to manic episodes, but they don't directly trigger them. Other factors like stress, lack of sleep, and genetics are just as likely to be contributing factors. If he tried to jump out a window, he's manic, and weed doesn't cause that all by itself. If it did, it would not be legalized in particular areas for recreational use. This is 100% false. 1
RochesterRob Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Irv said: What kind of azz-ole sits there and video tapes and doesn't try to help? What's wrong with society? Yep, with any luck negligence charges could be found to teach that loser a lesson.
BringBackOrton Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They lifted his mental health hold this morning. He was on drugs. Whether it was weed, synthetic weed, cocaine, PCP, flokka, K2 etc. we'll never know.
SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, smuvtalker said: Happy, I respect your opinion, and I enjoy reading a great many of your posts. I respectfully disagree. And apologies if this is redundant compared to some other replies, but I just didn't feel like reading all 26 pages... WHAT?? ? Surely you can't be serious... This is the most prolific receiver, the ALL-TIME RECEPTION LEADER IN NCAA HISTORY!!!! I don't care that he did it at ECU, and I dont care if 93.5% of his catches were screens and bubble screens! You had to do SOMETHING to achieve that feat! This kid had human stickum in college and caught virtually EVERYTHING thrown his way!!! Wide-open, over the middle, fades, posts, flys, open or covered, particularly covered this kid effin catches everything. When we drafted him I was effin ecstatic AND I STILL AM. I know every member of this board knows that WR's TYPICALLY take around 3 years to mature and "blossom" into the receiver their team hopes they can be. This is a kid who I admit, struggled through his rookie year, got inside his own head and developed a case of the dropsies, and was called upon to do an awful lot for a first year player. Yet he never complained, took full accountability for his mistakes, even the debatable throw/non catch in the Carolina game he stepped up and said it was on him. I know it wasn't his hands, but from what I've read and been told, a torn labrum can most certainly affect one's ability to catch the ball, particularly when in fear of landing wrong, or being blanketed by a defender. Yes, he was probably under the influence of something crazy....or perhaps he was still taking painkillers, and then got high and had a bad interaction between the two. Unfortunately, we'll probably never know the truth...However, Zay CAN get past this. If Zay wants to. Here's to hoping legally this remains a vandalism charge, Zay can get it dropped or reduced, plead no contest at worst, get some fines and restitution, and perhaps get a 1 game or none suspension. But to hear my fellow members in such agreement on cutting this kid bewilders me!! He's 26! He's going into his 2nd year, and FIRST fully healthy! Cutting him would be a GIGANTIC mistake! I swear to all of you, if we cut this kid, we WILL watch another team SNATCH him up, and we will all have to endure Sundays of seeing the bottom line look like, New England 37 - Tampa Bay 10, NE: T Brady, 26-32 354 yds, 4 TDs......Z Jones, 10 ctchs 146 yds, 2 TDs. Guys (and Buffalo Gal), this is a KID. Who did something stupid. If he can put this behind him, let him suit up for us and catch passes from Rosen (or Mayfield), and become the receiver we all hoped he would be. It's WAYYYYY too early to be even thinking about getting rid of this kid. IMHO X100%
smuvtalker Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I believe Ryan Broyles and Justin Hardy are #2 and 3 on that list for most FBS receptions. It really doesn't mean anything. I respect your opinion. Go f**k yourself. Lol just messin with you. But all jokes aside, I do believe it means something. To play at the next level, you have to do SOMETHING in college to separate you from your peers. Zay Jones caught THE MOST passes in NCAA history. A big difference from "the 3rd most passes in NCAA history". And he's got the tape to back it up. And how dare you say some crap like it doesn't mean anything?? Naaman Roosevelt is tied for 42nd on that list and he went to become a Buffalo Bill and had an outsta.... Edited March 21, 2018 by smuvtalker
RochesterRob Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: X100% Still going to have to face the penalties the league assesses in such matters. So he probably will not be available opening day. Or the week after. Or the week after that.
PolishDave Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Fetou said: In all seriousness the most likely suspect would be PCP. "Psychological effects include severe changes in body image, loss of ego boundaries, paranoia, and depersonalization. Hallucinations, euphoria, and suicidal impulses are also reported, as well as occasional aggressive behavior.[19]:48–49[17] Like many other drugs, PCP has been known to alter mood states in an unpredictable fashion, causing some individuals to become detached, and others to become animated. PCP may induce feelings of strength, power, and invulnerability as well as a numbing effect on the mind." Nobody does PCP anymore. That is so 80's.
MarkyMannn Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, PolishDave said: Nobody does PCP anymore. That is so 80's. Hey people do heroin which is so 60's, but yeah I hear ya My guess is meth or PCP. Damn that is a LOT of blood. How would you like to be the poor person cleaning that stuff?
Paul Costa Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Irv said: What kind of azz-ole sits there and video tapes and doesn't try to help? What's wrong with society? Totally agree ?
Fetou Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, PolishDave said: Nobody does PCP anymore. That is so 80's. The Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) reported that PCP was most prevalent among African American males ages 21-24 PCP-related emergency room visits increased 400% between 2005 and 2011, with increases seen in both genders. 4
Blokestradamus Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, smuvtalker said: RIDICULOUS!!!!! Thanks for making me spit out my delicious chai latte from Caribou Coffee then proceed to regurgitate the rest of it from convulse-laughing!!! HAHAHAHHAHA that's a way to start a day!!! ???? I'm sorry for the wasted latte. Have your people call my people and we'll sort something out. 1 1
dave mcbride Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fetou said: The Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) reported that PCP was most prevalent among African American males ages 21-24 PCP-related emergency room visits increased 400% between 2005 and 2011, with increases seen in both genders. In all seriousness, PCP would make a lot of sense. But the trying to jump out the window part? Shades of Diane Linklater.
smuvtalker Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fetou said: The Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) reported that PCP was most prevalent among African American males ages 21-24 PCP-related emergency room visits increased 400% between 2005 and 2011, with increases seen in both genders. Jesus, I didn't even realize they still MADE frickin PCP.... Seriously to this day I still don't know what a qualuude is, angel dust, poppers, whiz bangers, flippy sticks or jenkem are...
RyanC883 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 13 hours ago, starrymessenger said: WTF!!! Guess anything Kouandijo can do Zay can do better. Anyway, JuJu was my guy. always wondered how JuJu or any WR would have done on this team with the lack of talent at QB. JuJu is great, but he could have looked pedestrian for us last year. Man, I like Zay. This is just totally nutso. We may have to keep our picks and draft a few WR's. Chark, St. Browne, the guy from Indiana.
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Fetou said: The Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) reported that PCP was most prevalent among African American males ages 21-24 PCP-related emergency room visits increased 400% between 2005 and 2011, with increases seen in both genders. Wow that’s interesting. Yikes.
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