GG Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts don't want a QB, that's why they traded down. Knowing the Colts wouldn't be interested in QB, why didn't the Bills get more aggressive with the Colts? My only guess is that Beane knows that Gettleman is also willing to trade down, and by trading with Colts you still run the chance of a team jumping into the Giants' spot. Bills have the best ammo to move into #2 if Giants want to move the pick
Tatonka68 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I think the Bills might wait to see who the Browns pick at #1. I believe that Josh Allen is their target and any deal with the Giants is dependent on if Cleveland takes Josh Allen.
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GG said: My only guess is that Beane knows that Gettleman is also willing to trade down, and by trading with Colts you still run the chance of a team jumping into the Giants' spot. Bills have the best ammo to move into #2 if Giants want to move the pick Bills have the second best ammo. Denver could still flop #5, 2 more 1sts, a 2nd that's not much lower than #22, other picks if they really wanted to. 11 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: I think the Bills might wait to see who the Browns pick at #1. I believe that Josh Allen is their target and any deal with the Giants is dependent on if Cleveland takes Josh Allen. I firmly believe if the Giants are trading the pick they are going to move well before the draft. Edited March 20, 2018 by Chuck Wagon
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I had a feeling last night something big was going to happen today with the Bills. Not any reason other then pure gut. I hope this is legit.
dlonce Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Why? Because Beane wants to analyze the QB's first before giving away draft stock. Refreshing to see a GM take a methodical approach for once. Just because the Jets sold the farm to move up a few spots doesn't mean we have to. He may have been honest with the amount of time he spent with those guys, but he certainly has a handle on who the better QBs are through scouting at the least. Yes,it’s certainly refreshing. Pegula seems to have picked a methodical,smart team in Beane and McDermot. 1
mannc Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) I believe the Giants badly want to move out of the second pick, and I doubt there is any other team able or willing to offer anything close to what the Bills could offer. The Bills hold all the cards here. I think the reported offer is too steep and that we should be able to get a mid round pick or two back from the Giants in that scenario. Edited March 20, 2018 by mannc 1
Chandler#81 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 As Yolo says, ‘take it for what it’s worth’.. I’ve changed my mind about not trading away all these costly acquired Draft picks. We surrendered Watkins, Darby, Dareus & Glenn for this booty. It’s just crazy that we made the playoffs without them -and now pick so low in the Draft. Go get who you want, Mc/Beane! Include next years 1st , if necessary. With $92M (currently) in Cap Space for ‘19, that will buy us proven 1st Round/immediate starter material, which is safer than a college pick. Trust the Process. 1
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: As Yolo says, ‘take it for what it’s worth’.. I’ve changed my mind about not trading away all these costly acquired Draft picks. We surrendered Watkins, Darby, Dareus & Glenn for this booty. It’s just crazy that we made the playoffs without them -and now pick so low in the Draft. Go get who you want, Mc/Beane! Include next years 1st , if necessary. With $92M (currently) in Cap Space for ‘19, that will buy us proven 1st Round/immediate starter material, which is safer than a college pick. Trust the Process. Welcome to the dark side. We've planned a year for this, now is not the time to get cold feet. Get the QB and everything else falls in line. 1
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: As Yolo says, ‘take it for what it’s worth’.. I’ve changed my mind about not trading away all these costly acquired Draft picks. We surrendered Watkins, Darby, Dareus & Glenn for this booty. It’s just crazy that we made the playoffs without them -and now pick so low in the Draft. Go get who you want, Mc/Beane! Include next years 1st , if necessary. With $92M (currently) in Cap Space for ‘19, that will buy us proven 1st Round/immediate starter material, which is safer than a college pick. Trust the Process. We were in cap hell. Needed to unload big salaries for oft injured or underforming players.
Jay_Fixit Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Incarcerated Bob is less accurate than Josh Allen. Unless he’s saying stuff about our team. Then we’re sure he’s Joe Montana. Edited March 20, 2018 by Jay_Fixit 1 2
H2o Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Take this as you will I'd do both 1st Rounders this year, #65, and next year's first. If that isn't enough then so be it. We will have a ton of $$$ to maneuver next year in FA so giving up our 1st in 2019 doesn't seem as bad. If we hit on a QB and things keep moving the way they are then we won't have any problem attracting FA's.
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Welcome to the dark side. We've planned a year for this, now is not the time to get cold feet. Get the QB and everything else falls in line. They have to. What I think some need to reconcile and come to terms with is their expectations for 2018. They may take a step back and not be good and not be a playoff team this year. To me, at least, that is ok. I want to build the team for the long term. The previous regimes were forever building for the short term. If it means a bad season this year with the rookie, but you are able to actually be a perennial contender after that as you continue to build around your QB - that should be the goal. Not 9-7 squeezing into a WC with a limited, bridge type QB every so often but no long term plan for consistent success like the teams who compete in the playoffs year in and year out. Edited March 20, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2
oldmanfan Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They have to. What I think some need to reconcile and come to terms with is their expectations for 2018. They may take a step back and not be good and not be a playoff team this year. To me, at least, that is ok. I want to build the team for the long term. The previous regimes were forever building for the short term. If it means a bad season this year with the rookie, but you are able to actually be a perennial contender after that as you continue to build around your QB - that should be the goal. Not 9-7 squeezing into a WC with a limited, bridge type QB every so often but no long term plan. I think they have have to take a QB this year. They do not have to expend all those picks to take one though. It all depends on what Beane and the front office think about each of these guys. If they think one of them is a can't miss type I fully expect them to move to 1 or 2. If they think there's little difference between the top six, or that a guy like Jackson is better than Darnold, they either will make a small move up or no move. We all have opinions on what they should do, who the best guy is, and so on. None of it matters. What Beane thinks is what matters. 1
McBean Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 ICB has been right more than he has wrong. With that being said, I’m not buying it. The Giants are taking a QB.
GG Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Bills have the second best ammo. Denver could still flop #5, 2 more 1sts, a 2nd that's not much lower than #22, other picks if they really wanted to. I firmly believe if the Giants are trading the pick they are going to move well before the draft. Im talking about rational compensation. Any team can pull a Ditka and offer every draft pick. Bills are the only team with 2 1st round selections in '18, and are in the best position to deal.
BillsSbSoon Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, joesixpack said: What movie are those images from? My brain fails me Its from one of the best movies ever made
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I think they have have to take a QB this year. They do not have to expend all those picks to take one though. It all depends on what Beane and the front office think about each of these guys. If they think one of them is a can't miss type I fully expect them to move to 1 or 2. If they think there's little difference between the top six, or that a guy like Jackson is better than Darnold, they either will make a small move up or no move. We all have opinions on what they should do, who the best guy is, and so on. None of it matters. What Beane thinks is what matters. Of course. If they give up that amount of capital to move to 2, it’s obvious they have one graded significantly higher than the rest, and refuse to settle. Edited March 20, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Take this as you will I guess this will rip the bandaid off on the McBean regime and it will either work or we have a new GM and coach in 2020. heads or tails please?
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