26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, 1ManRaid said: Oddly specific for a Sideshow Bob "report". Take it for what it is. Entertainment.
Boatdrinks Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: This makes absolutely zero sense. Not really. They go from the draft pick poor house to the penthouse with the Bills loot.
teef Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: ICB OK. yeah...who it is kinda bums me out. 1
DJB Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: The beauty and curse of rumors is that if they don’t pan out, there’s no actual proof that they weren’t true at the time. We’ll never be able to disprove IB’s assertion that the Bills offered a 2nd round pick for Foles. Edit: I personally take IB with a major grain of salt, but I do trust him when it involves NYC teams like the Giants. He’s proven to have good connections there IMO. Maybe I'm naive or simply forgetful . But do we have any proven recent rumors by him? Because I want to believe the rumor. I want to trade up
GG Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I haven't liked a prospect more than Darnold since Andrew Luck. I think he has greatness in him. We shall see. Even the school doesn't scare you?
RochesterRob Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Take it for what it is. Entertainment. You know for a fair amount of posters here that they are "self-servicing" themselves over the possibility. 1
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, GG said: Even the school doesn't scare you? You're trolling me, right??
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I'd tend to agree, but they could just simply love Barkley. It's a possibility right now. I do not think they stay put at 2 for an OG or even Chubb. If they don't trade out of #2, it's a QB or Barkley. With their lack of picks, anything else is a huge head scratcher. I hope Elway is truly in win now mode and will want an immediate contributor, maybe in the secondary or a pass rusher. That seemed like the early word out of DEN with the Keenum signing, then suddenly they had a strong interest in QB at 5. It would be like using 2 1st rd picks, 2 2nd round picks, plus the 1st pick in the 3rd on a RB, in the deepest RB draft in recent memory. They would be egregiously wasting the value of the #2 pick if that offer is on the table and the decline to take a RB. The only way they maximize it by staying put is taking their QB of the future. Falling in love with any one player so much that you ignore positional value and overall team building is a huge no no. Edited March 20, 2018 by YoloinOhio
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I'm really glad someone else mentioned this, the Giants could then trade up from 12th overall and get back into the top ten. If the Colts are looking to move down again from six, there ya go. Especially since they traded two picks for a mediocre LB leaving them with only five picks and a less than desirable cap situation. The Giants moves all offseason have felt like they expect to get a big infusion of draft picks. For all we know, Beane and Gettleman could have agreed to a deal a month ago and decided to just watch the speculation run crazy. The way we played free agency with QBs certainly felt like we had something up our sleeve.
GG Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: You're trolling me, right?? Westwood is crying right now.
RochesterRob Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Not taking him seriously but I think it's a reasonable assumption anyone can make that the Bills are considering all their options. Denver is being mentioned, but would they take a QB that high, or even move up to 2, given the Keenum signing? I have my doubts. Everybody has a Madden mentality and last I knew Keenum does not have a no trade clause. Give the rookie a year to sit then ask Keenum where he would like his next stop to be.
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Westwood is crying right now. Ha! I actually like Rosen quite a bit; I just think Darnold is a better player and will be a better pro. I'd be happy with either, but if I had to pick one, it'd be Darnold.
OldTimer1960 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 They had better be REALLY sure that: 1. Cleveland isn't going to take they guy that they want 2. The guy they take needs to be so good that he can CARRY a team - not just good enough to win with, but to carry those around him to victory. Would people be OK to trade that much for Phillip Rivers (who really has never won anything, but has been good) when he came out? Or is it only OK to trade that much to get Brady or Rodgers? 3. There needs to be a significant difference in how the Bills view the QB that they trade up for and guys like Mayfield, Allen or Jackson one or more of whom might be available close to 12. 1
P51 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t like it still personally. I’d rather 12, 22, 53, 56 & 2019 2nd. I think if they go up and get Rosen now and then Bosa/Oliver/Gary etc... with the 2019 1st they are heading in the right direction. I think that star DL are tough to get. They are probably 2nd only to QB in terms of scarcity. I’d give the picks this year and hope to hit at 65 (or 53/56) and 96. I’m assuming that the Bills will have to give 4 of their first 5 picks from this draft. That’s okay with me. The point values IMO dont work out that favorably if I am reading this right, using the either the point value charts (Hill or Johnson) when comparing the cost of the Jets trade (34% increase/23rd pick value). Adding another 3rd is comparable and still less than the Jets trade. I agree completely about keeping the 2019 1st 100%. Im pretty sure using the Jets trade as a comparison, its going to cost more that people think to move up to #2.
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I like Darnold too, in spite of the unorthodox throwing motion and carrying the ball low which makes him prone to fumbling. The latter, I think, you can unlearn and I wouldn't mess with the former, because it works for him. I haven't really considered Darnold, however, because I'm just sure he's going to the Browns at #1 overall. I would bet a lot of money that he ends up going #1 to the Browns.
1ManRaid Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: You know for a fair amount of posters here that they are "self-servicing" themselves over the possibility. Well in an odd way the fact that someone as BS as him went into such specifics kind of lends the report a weird credibility.
Floydboy12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I just hope we don't overpay. I'm not sold that any of these QB's are worth it. We should deal from a position of strength. If we go to 2 I really hope it's for Mayfield. Otherwise I'd stay at 12 and draft Jackson. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said: Whoever he/she is blocked on me on Twitter. I really don't give much credence to what that individual says. I'm just stating if that was in fact the package we would still have a perfectly fine draft. Someone here on TBD posted a story of who ICB is. Just a guy in New Jersey who realized he could hook fish with his rumour tweets. In other words, a professional troll. But just like a broken clock, once in a great while he guesses correctly, so he uses that as proof that he's "plugged in." If it were up to me I wouldn't allow any ICB stuff here. Edited March 20, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: They had better be REALLY sure that: 1. Cleveland isn't going to take they guy that they want 2. The guy they take needs to be so good that he can CARRY a team - not just good enough to win with, but to carry those around him to victory. Would people be OK to trade that much for Phillip Rivers (who really has never won anything, but has been good) when he came out? Or is it only OK to trade that much to get Brady or Rodgers? 3. There needs to be a significant difference in how the Bills view the QB that they trade up for and guys like Mayfield, Allen or Jackson one or more of whom might be available close to 12. Philip Rivers is a GREAT player who has been snakebitten. One name captures his bad luck: Marlon McCree. All you need to know. If not for him, the Chargers are likely the 2006 season SB winner. 1
kickedface Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 not a huge fan of this, i don't know which QB everyone is losing their minds over either. is it really for rosen or allen?
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