Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: That's a lot to give up, but, have to try IMO. A rich California kid in a rustbelt city with a bunch of morons diving on to burning tables, awesome! http://www.nflshop.com/Tyrod_Taylor_Gear/Mens_Cleveland_Browns_Tyrod_Taylor_Nike_Brown_Game_Jersey When are you moving to Cleveland?
BigBuff423 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If you think that's a kings ransom to move up and grab a possible Franchise QB in a good QB year - than you just haven't been paying close enough attention. No way you'd know this, but I pay very close attention, and it is a king's ransom....and we can go back and forth about how to identify a "franchise QB", but since this discussion has essentially been rehashed to the point it nearly nauseates me, we'll just agree to disagree.
wppete Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I think this should do it: #12 (2018) #22 (2018) 2nd round pick (2018) 2nd round pick (2019) 3rd round pick (2018) We can not afford to spend more than this. However I do trust Bean making a creative trade which involves a player. We pick Darnorld or Rosen with #2. Next year we have roughly $100 million in FA money next year to build a solid offense around the rookie and continue to build out Defense. After This trade we are left with these draft picks this year. Not bad at all to build this year. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th thoughts???
RochesterRob Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I understand all is fair in love and war, but if Gettleman really did that to Beane, that's kinda effed up. They could take those parameters to other teams directly. No need to air the laundry. I dont think that's really going on. I agree. There is no need to negotiate through the media or any other third party. All is doomed when you turn to a mob of people for direction.
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, eball said: If you follow Daniel Jeremiah (I don't, but he's apparently a pretty dialed in draft analyst) he has Darnold ahead of Wentz (as a prospect) and Rosen just behind him. My guess is that Beane is targeting Rosen. Most people believe that the Browns are going to use their first pick on Darnold. The assumption on my part is that the Bills are going to work out a deal with the Giants for their pick. The Bills are in the best position to offer the most to them. And that is what it is going to take.
Dr. Who Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Lurker said: Well, if Aaron Rogers (he of Hollywood girlfriend fame) can do OK in Green Bay, I don't worry about Rosen in our little burg... I'm not really worried about it. I'm more worried about the rather slight frame and injury concerns.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, wppete said: I think this should do it: #12 (2018) #22 (2018) 2nd round pick (2018) 2nd round pick (2019) 3rd round pick (2018) We can not afford to spend more than this. However I do trust Bean making a creative trade which involves a player. We pick Darnorld or Rosen with #2. Next year we have roughly $100 million in FA money next year to build a solid offense around the rookie and continue to build out Defense. After This trade we are left with these draft picks this year. Not bad at all to build this year. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th thoughts??? That’s exactly what ICB said is on the table 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, ddaryl said: its a sweet deal but the Giants will try to milk more hence the reason the Giants released details of the offer. Now teams know what they have to beat. If nobody outbids us were in NYG need to maximize what they get for the Pick, the GM relationship helps, but it is still business. Can't blame them really, if the shoe was on the other foot we would all be like "Hell no! Gimme more!"
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s exactly what ICB said is on the table Details
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, rodneykm said: Sure it does. I think Darnold is going to be a massive, massive bust. I haven't liked a prospect more than Darnold since Andrew Luck. I think he has greatness in him. We shall see.
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, wppete said: I think this should do it: #12 (2018) #22 (2018) 2nd round pick (2018) 2nd round pick (2019) 3rd round pick (2018) We can not afford to spend more than this. However I do trust Bean making a creative trade which involves a player. We pick Darnorld or Rosen with #2. Next year we have roughly $100 million in FA money next year to build a solid offense around the rookie and continue to build out Defense. After This trade we are left with these draft picks this year. Not bad at all to build this year. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th thoughts??? Yes, this is why the Bills are the only team in position to do this trade without wiping out their draft. 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: It's one thing to take that approach when you are talking to the Giants / Colts / maybe even the Browns at 4. But one of those teams made their move. If we are anywhere close to getting the deal done, you get it done. You don't risk Miami / Denver / Arizona etc doing something crazy. You think people were upset after the Jets made their move, what happens if the Dolphins throw all in and get pick #2, the Jets & Dolphins both walk out with franchise QBs we have to see for the next 10 years + and we just sit on a pile of draft capital with AJ McCarron and Mason Rudolph "battling it out"? For the win
The 9 Isles Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Is this actually happening or is this just another message board fantasy quest?
BringBackFergy Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I understand all is fair in love and war, but if Gettleman really did that to Beane, that's kinda effed up. They could take those parameters to other teams directly. No need to air the laundry. I dont think that's really going on. If that happened, then Beane needs to send a very nice text to Gettleman that reads: "Our offer is only good until March 24 at 4pm then we'll have to take it off he table. Hope you and the family are doing well. Talk soon. B" Put a deadline on the offer and let Gettleman call around this week. He won't find a better offer. Done deal by Friday at 8pm
Dr. Who Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I haven't liked a prospect more than Darnold since Andrew Luck. I think he has greatness in him. We shall see. I like Darnold too, in spite of the unorthodox throwing motion and carrying the ball low which makes him prone to fumbling. The latter, I think, you can unlearn and I wouldn't mess with the former, because it works for him. I haven't really considered Darnold, however, because I'm just sure he's going to the Browns at #1 overall.
Royale with Cheese Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: It's one thing to take that approach when you are talking to the Giants / Colts / maybe even the Browns at 4. But one of those teams made their move. If we are anywhere close to getting the deal done, you get it done. You don't risk Miami / Denver / Arizona etc doing something crazy. You think people were upset after the Jets made their move, what happens if the Dolphins throw all in and get pick #2, the Jets & Dolphins both walk out with franchise QBs we have to see for the next 10 years + and we just sit on a pile of draft capital with AJ McCarron and Mason Rudolph "battling it out"? This is what's scaring me....one day before the draft I'll get the NFL mobile text with breaking news the Dolphins, Cards or Broncos get the #2 pick. Then we have to hope AJ McCaron turns out to be a diamond in the rough.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: NYG need to maximize what they get for the Pick, the GM relationship helps, but it is still business. Can't blame them really, if the shoe was on the other foot we would all be like "Hell no! Gimme more!" The bonus here is that there is no other team in the race that can reasonably match even our starting offer. Price may not go up much unless the Giants just don't want to move out of their spot.
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, BringBackFergy said: If that happened, then Beane needs to send a very nice text to Gettleman that reads: "Our offer is only good until March 24 at 4pm then we'll have to take it off he table. Hope you and the family are doing well. Talk soon. B" Put a deadline on the offer and let Gettleman call around this week. He won't find a better offer. Done deal by Friday at 8pm I still think that they should agree in principle but not pull the actual trigger on announcement until draft day and the #1 pick is over and their guy (Rosen or otherwise) is officially there.
Reed83HOF Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: The bonus here is that there is no other team in the race that can reasonably match even our starting offer. Price may not go up much unless the Giants just don't want to move out of their spot. I am thinking they are going to want a little something next year as well...I wouldn't like to move 1, but they could easily have 2 and/or 3...
Floydboy12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: That's like showing up at a Mercedes dealership with $500 and a ham sandwich and saying "I don't care what the price you have on the car, I'll give you $500 and this sandwich!" Thats a little hyperbolic but I get your point. 2 firsts and 2 seconds does not seem like chicken feed to me. That's 4 potential starters for a team in dire need of OL help that appears to be sticking with Eli. What other team can top that offer? Add a third this yr but that would be it for me.
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