78thealltimegreat Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Lamar Jacksons pro day if he blows up and has Mayock drooling like I think he will think that might influence a team or two behind us at 12 like the cardinals to try to jump into the top 10 1
NeverOutNick Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Why does this impact the Bills? I would be shocked if we were interested in Jackson. Why not just keep TT if that were the case. I have faith in this regime to not just take a QB for the sake of making the fans happy. If they see their franchise QB (one of the top 4) and can move up to get him then yay for us! Finally! But if the opportunity doesn't present itself I believe we will hold firm with McCarron (who could be a steal) and Peterman this year and build this team up everywhere else instead of wasting a pick on a Losman (only non franchise QB taken in the 1st round of 2004 draft) or EJ Manuel again. Great LB could be had at 12 with Smith or Edmunds. My dream scenario is we somehow pull a trade off with NYG at 2 and take our guy but I pray more that if it's not possible Beane is true to his word and doesn't waste a pick on a guy that who isn't a long term franchise QB. 1
GreggTX Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Didn't Jackson's combine send him to round 2? I thought he was wildly erratic with his throws.
smuvtalker Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 5:27 AM, NeverOutNick said: Why does this impact the Bills? I would be shocked if we were interested in Jackson. Why not just keep TT if that were the case. Expand Aside from them both being black and mobile, I think they are two very different QB's, and this is a bit of an unfair comparison. Jackson may not be my first (or 2nd, 3rd or 4th) choice but I believe he has alot of potential. Whether or not he lives up to it is another question. 3
formerlyofCtown Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 8:10 AM, smuvtalker said: Aside from them both being black and mobile, I think they are two very different QB's, and this is a bit of an unfair comparison. Jackson may not be my first (or 2nd, 3rd or 4th) choice but I believe he has alot of potential. Whether or not he lives up to it is another question. Expand TT would have been a good bridge. I think it may be possible that Clev goes Barkley and trades down for Jackson.
KRT88 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 8:53 AM, formerlyofCtown said: TT would have been a good bridge. I think it may be possible that Clev goes Barkley and trades down for Jackson. Expand I SERIOUSLY doubt Cleveland is trading down to pick Jackson. They can pick any QB they like, TT skillset has NOTHING to do with their decision. The tarded for TT because he is a professional and will show whomever what that means. He's a great teammate and responsible on the field which will prevent throwing the #1 pick to the wolves. I'll lay significant odds Cleveland doesn't trade the top overall pick or pick a non QB.
formerlyofCtown Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) On 3/20/2018 at 9:46 AM, KRT88 said: I SERIOUSLY doubt Cleveland is trading down to pick Jackson. They can pick any QB they like, TT skillset has NOTHING to do with their decision. The tarded for TT because he is a professional and will show whomever what that means. He's a great teammate and responsible on the field which will prevent throwing the #1 pick to the wolves. I'll lay significant odds Cleveland doesn't trade the top overall pick or pick a non QB. Expand The key words are may and possible. Just like no team will give a draft pick for TT right. If we really new that much I think we would be in a front office not a fan message board. I know what QBs I like but I'm not gonna try and act like I am certain of what's going to happen. It's just speculation. Hell maybe they see TT as their franchise QB. Also it would be 4 that I think they trade down if they did. Edited March 20, 2018 by formerlyofCtown
JM57 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 5:27 AM, NeverOutNick said: Why does this impact the Bills? I would be shocked if we were interested in Jackson. Why not just keep TT if that were the case. I have faith in this regime to not just take a QB for the sake of making the fans happy. If they see their franchise QB (one of the top 4) and can move up to get him then yay for us! Finally! But if the opportunity doesn't present itself I believe we will hold firm with McCarron (who could be a steal) and Peterman this year and build this team up everywhere else instead of wasting a pick on a Losman (only non franchise QB taken in the 1st round of 2004 draft) or EJ Manuel again. Great LB could be had at 12 with Smith or Edmunds. My dream scenario is we somehow pull a trade off with NYG at 2 and take our guy but I pray more that if it's not possible Beane is true to his word and doesn't waste a pick on a guy that who isn't a long term franchise QB. Expand Comparing Jackson and Taylor is pure laziness. Their similarities start and end with "QB who is also a dynamic running threat." Everything past that is very different.
NewEra Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 5:27 AM, NeverOutNick said: Why does this impact the Bills? I would be shocked if we were interested in Jackson. Why not just keep TT if that were the case. I have faith in this regime to not just take a QB for the sake of making the fans happy. If they see their franchise QB (one of the top 4) and can move up to get him then yay for us! Finally! But if the opportunity doesn't present itself I believe we will hold firm with McCarron (who could be a steal) and Peterman this year and build this team up everywhere else instead of wasting a pick on a Losman (only non franchise QB taken in the 1st round of 2004 draft) or EJ Manuel again. Great LB could be had at 12 with Smith or Edmunds. My dream scenario is we somehow pull a trade off with NYG at 2 and take our guy but I pray more that if it's not possible Beane is true to his word and doesn't waste a pick on a guy that who isn't a long term franchise QB. Expand Because he is not TT 1
Doc Brown Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I guess if the Bills fail miserably at getting any of the top 3 quarterbacks despite all this draft capital they could take Jackson at #22. Maybe he can be a temporary RB/WR before he's ready to start like Kordell Stewart.
Boca BIlls Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 8:53 AM, formerlyofCtown said: TT would have been a good bridge. I think it may be possible that Clev goes Barkley and trades down for Jackson. Expand That would be so Ceveland to do something like that. On 3/20/2018 at 10:13 AM, Doc Brown said: I guess if the Bills fail miserably at getting any of the top 3 quarterbacks despite all this draft capital they could take Jackson at #22. Maybe he can be a temporary RB/WR before he's ready to start like Kordell Stewart. Expand Yea lets grab some leftovers and suck for longer.
Paul Costa Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I think Jackson has as much chance of being a franchise QB as the 4 guys rated in front of him. They all have major flaws. People are obsessed with getting to the top of the draft. To get who? Everyone has a different answer. If Beane and co. Like Darnold he will be gone at 1. On to plan B. What if the Giants take a QB and the Jets now have the third pick. It’s a wrap. We’re still in great shape. We don’t have to have one of these 4 guys and we will still be good. I’m cool with Jackson and a LB with 12 & 22. And then we have 53, 56,65,& 95.man that’s a lot of draft picks in the first 3 rounds in which to build a Championship Team ???
Putin Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 3:47 AM, 78thealltimegreat said: Lamar Jacksons pro day if he blows up and has Mayock drooling like I think he will think that might influence a team or two behind us at 12 like the cardinals to try to jump into the top 10 Expand I would think that who ever is considering drafting him , a good performance at the pro day would just make it a stronger case to draft him ,
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 another LJ thread well since I am here ... 1 minute of time wasted.
BringBackFergy Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 3:47 AM, 78thealltimegreat said: Lamar Jacksons pro day if he blows up and has Mayock drooling like I think he will think that might influence a team or two behind us at 12 like the cardinals to try to jump into the top 10 Expand #wedontchaseplayers #letthecardinalsmoveup
NeverOutNick Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I apologize for not elaborating on my TT/Jackson comment. I don't think they are the same player but I do think they will give us the same consistent result. They are both adequate NFL QBs but are both closer to bridge quarterbacks than they are to franchise guys. If you guys have watched Jackson play you know he's an unbelievably gifted athlete and the most exciting COLLEGE QB I've ever seen but have you ever seen him be consistent accuracy wise? He's very erratic and his arm strength is no where close to the guy he's compared to (Michael Vick). In the NFL I'd rather have TT. He's not as athletic but takes care of the ball and has great deep ball accuracy. All of this being said my original point was that neither QB is worth the investment of a franchise QB. This FO has been great thus far and I'd hate for their legacy to go down in flames because they listened to fans and settled on a QB they really don't believe will make this franchise a consistent threat for the next 10+ years. Like I said before if we can trade up and get the guy they think can turn this franchise around long term than I'm in but if not PLEASE don't settle for a lesser QB to invest in. McCarron is a fine bridge QB and we can build this team up (like the Vikes did) everywhere else until we have another chance at a franchise QB. Go BIlls!
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 7:35 AM, GreggTX said: Didn't Jackson's combine send him to round 2? I thought he was wildly erratic with his throws. Expand NFL talent evaluators aren't going to based their decisions on throws at the combine.
Rob's House Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 9:58 AM, JM57 said: Comparing Jackson and Taylor is pure laziness. Their similarities start and end with "QB who is also a dynamic running threat." Everything past that is very different. Expand They're both guys who would never be considered for NFL QB spots if not for their running ability. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 3:47 AM, 78thealltimegreat said: Lamar Jacksons pro day if he blows up and has Mayock drooling like I think he will think that might influence a team or two behind us at 12 like the cardinals to try to jump into the top 10 Expand What will happen in a pro day that will blow anyone's mind? People have seen him play real games.
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