Green Lightning Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 10:32 PM, Dr. Who said: It doesn't sound like it is solid OL depth. Bad players with experience are desperation depth. Expand Well not desperation, but not going to sugar coat it, these two players were given up on by their teams because they're bad.
Tyrod's friend Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 11:15 PM, Bills Freak said: How, signings for depth & camp. Need 90 for roster Expand If you were to compare the quality of the depth of the line from last year to this, and tell me that it was anything but worse, you know you'd be lying to yourself. Last year C: Eric Wood and Ryan Groy This year C: Eric Groy and Russell Bodine Replayed at nearly every position along the line.
Bobby Hooks Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Who knows how they’ll perform on our lines with our schemes. Maybe they’ll stink and we’ll cut them in camp. At least they’re being proactive, yeah? 1
BillsFan4 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Anxious to see what they signed for. That should give us a better idea to whether they see these guys as starters or more as depth.
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 10:44 PM, Bobby Hooks said: Doesn’t matter if he can get the ball out on time. People don’t realize how well our line was doing because Taylor held it way too long til someone was wide open. Most of the running around he did was because of how long it took him to find a receiver. Not because of the line. Lauding Taylor for keeping a play going when he was the cause is took so long to begin with was the main reason people think our line was worse than it was. Expand no it was because he could not trust the line, or his receivers. they sucked. Dennison sucked, Castillo still sucks. AJ could get killed. Peterman is still traumatized
Bills Freak Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 12:28 AM, Tyrod's friend said: If you were to compare the quality of the depth of the line from last year to this, and tell me that it was anything but worse, you know you'd be lying to yourself. Last year C: Eric Wood and Ryan Groy This year C: Eric Groy and Russell Bodine Replayed at nearly every position along the line. Expand That's likely true but Eric is gone & we gotta start somewhere. These guys may not even make the roster. i have a feeling there will be some line shuffling w/ our current roster. Another consideration is, we have no idea what Daboll has in mind for the blocking scheme.
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 11:49 PM, Greatdane21 said: If either one of these guys end up starting the OL is in deep trouble hope we have a Qb that can run . Expand yep feels like Mills and Ducasse all over again
Tyrod's friend Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 11:04 PM, Augie said: Care to explain? Nobody has promised them a roster spot, much less declared them as starters. Expand Sure. The quality of the depth is less. And the line last year was frankly terrible - especially with the RT and RG. The idea that I expect everyone to be a starter is bull (not that you are saying it). But as fans, let's be honest enough to call a spade a spade. This team was bad at several positions last year and just damned lucky to make the playoffs - we should have won somewhere around 6 games. Now at center instead of a near Pro Bowl Center in Eric Wood and a high quality backup in Groy, you have a high quality backup and really, a below replacement. Now ... if we use three of the top 6 picks and return great young talent - say, Wynn, Ragnow, MIller - ok. I'm wrong. But we're out of money and the 7th cavalry to upgrade the line is a turnstile RT and a much below league average C. From bad, to worse.
Bills Freak Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 11:49 PM, Greatdane21 said: If either one of these guys end up starting the OL is in deep trouble hope we have a Qb that can run . Expand Say hello to Lamar Jackson!
USABuffaloFan Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 10:28 PM, CajunBillsBacker said: Filling holes they won’t be able to fill in the draft. Expand Possible now though I am not thrilled of giving up 4-5 picks this year. Bills should find a way of keeping 22nd, 56 and 65.
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 12:36 AM, Bills Freak said: That's likely true but Eric is gone & we gotta start somewhere. These guys may not even make the roster. i have a feeling there will be some line shuffling w/ our current roster. Another consideration is, we have no idea what Daboll has in mind for the blocking scheme. Expand Big Fan of Groy btw. Hope they fix the f'n blocking scheme though. Actuall Daboll is my undercover Hero. Draft RT at least. good lord. i see Mills whiff and lunge again i will puke On 3/20/2018 at 12:38 AM, Bills Freak said: Say hello to Lamar Jackson! Expand its coming Hi ! Lamar !
Bobby Hooks Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 12:36 AM, 3rdand12 said: no it was because he could not trust the line, or his receivers. they sucked. Dennison sucked, Castillo still sucks. AJ could get killed. Peterman is still traumatized Expand Nah, bro. Watch those games again. Taylor had forever to throw. Benjamin made good almost every time he was given his chance to our jump someone. Taylor refused to throw to anyone that didn’t have 14 steps and standing stationary with two outstretched and waiting hands.
Dr. K Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 One of my old friends is a diehard Bengals fan. What he says about the Bills' acquisitions from the Bengals does not speak well about McBeane and "The Process": "McCarron is a great leader, smart, relatively accurate, arm like a wet noodle. Hope the improved draft position turns out well. Bodine on the other hand is the worst center I have ever seen."
******* Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Bodine got a 2-year deal for $5M... He turned down a long-term deal from Cincy with low guarantees, opting for a deal he believes is best for his future
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 12:42 AM, Bobby Hooks said: Nah, bro. Watch those games again. Taylor had forever to throw. Benjamin made good almost every time he was given his chance to our jump someone. Taylor refused to throw to anyone that didn’t have 14 steps and standing stationary with two outstretched and waiting hands. Expand I know he made time to throw, and often had a clean pocket which he would not step up into. But he also was getting blown out in two seconds and needed to move. Of course there are plenty of reasons why that happened Bobby. 1
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Newhouse let 8 sacks last year Bodine let up 1 sack For the curious few!
stinky finger Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 11:23 PM, BBillsWestCoast said: Josh Allen or Mayfield could fall all the way to 7-9 and we could trade up. It all depends on Denver. Just because analysts say what they think it doesn't mean that 1-2 guys won't drop... I want to wait until draft day and move to #9 from #22; If we trade #22, #56 and #96 to SF 49ers (they have no 2nd rounder) for pick #9 and their #124. I would be satisfied with #9 Allen/Mayfield, #12 Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds, then still have picks #53, #65, rounds 4-6. This team is built to win on defense and needs help on the offensive line badly. Expand This is kind of interesting.
oldmanfan Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 11:57 PM, BillzFreak said: Exactly, having veteran backups is a great thing on any team. It seems people think every player we sign is here to start. Expand No. They think they should be All Pros. These guys may provide depth. Or may not be on the roster come November
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 12:49 AM, oldmanfan said: No. They think they should be All Pros. These guys may provide depth. Or may not be on the roster come November Expand simple as that? I sure hope so
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