BillsFan130 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: late 70s with the Mel Bount/Jack Tatum rule that took away contact after 5 yards and after the Stingley tragedy took away the freedom of the secondary to club the receiver in the face and back of the neck on every play. Losing the intimidation factor was monstrous. Marino soon took advantage with small and fleet of foot WRs.... Little past my time so can’t comment on that part. I do remember them really cracking down on those calls after the Colts Pats playoff game in 2003 where the pats corners were basically tackling Wayne and Harrison lol
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: Yeah.... But there are 7 rounds, so 55% is heavily skewed in favor of drafting one in the first. I agree, for instance your chance of drafting a franchise QB in the first round is profoundly greater than choosing one in the third round.
Elite Poster Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Neither have your posts. Have you been following me that closely? Flattering
row_33 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Single counting, it's still about 55/45. I remember Ben being under pressure all day at Ann Arbor with the local yokels whooping it up for the easy win, thinking this kid is a perfect NFL QB prototype, one of 5 I saw during over 100 games there. So that had to be one of his first games as a Frosh that I saw that in him. as he only appeared at The Big House once, and in his first year.... Edited March 19, 2018 by row_33
Elite Poster Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Ya know, the whole argument including Brees and Rodgers is kind of dumb. They were both the second QB taken. Regardless of where they were taken, they we're still a top 2 QB prospect and they fell for whatever reason. Teams value QB much higher now, that type of thing happens much less often.
yungmack Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Another piece of info that can be extrapolated is the success rate of "gunslingers" vs "conservative" system QBs. It's overwhelming the latter with the wins, with Favre, Stabler and maybe Namath, Wilson and Rodgers the winning "gunslingers." An even more telling list would include the losing QBs, which includes a load of gunslingers like Kelly, Tarkenton, Marino, Newton, LaMonica, and several others. While most of us love the kind of guy who can pull plays out of the air and fire passes in the craziest situations, the history of SB winning QBs is that the more boring, conservative, system QBs win way more Lombardis than do gunslingers. It's good to keep that in mind when picking a franchise QB.
dave mcbride Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Knock Roger Staubach out of your equation. He was drafted one year before he finished at Navy as a "future" pick in 1964 (which the league allowed) because he had to server four years in the Navy after finishing. Everyone knew he was a great player at Navy -- indeed, he was the best player in the country! -- but they also knew that he couldn't play until 1969. He's an anomaly and should not be included.
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