78thealltimegreat Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 The benefits of having all these picks aren’t just for trying to pull a Saints Ricky Williams deal for a qb...we don’t have to use them all we can move them around and keep adding more picks...cause let’s face it 2018 is basically the year we find out if AJ McCarron is an NFL starting QB or not regardless who we draft to be under center 4 2 1
gobills1212 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Thats what youve taken away from the last 2 days of posts on here? Are you sure you posted this in the right forum? 5 1
Putin Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:43 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: The benefits of having all these picks aren’t just for trying to pull a Saints Ricky Williams deal for a qb...we don’t have to use them all we can move them around and keep adding more picks...cause let’s face it 2018 is basically the year we find out if AJ McCarron is an NFL starting QB or not regardless who we draft to be under center Expand We already know that AJ McCarron is not an NFL starting QB , because starting/franchise QB’s do not make it past the 3rd overall pick !! 3 7
Teddy KGB Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Trade up or die. Starting other teams backups in playoff games will get you 3 points 3
JaCrispy Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Bills love other team’s backup QBs...#QBpurgatoryforever 2 1
jjmac Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:54 PM, Putin said: We already know that AJ McCarron is not an NFL starting QB , because starting/franchise QB’s do not make it past the 3rd overall pick !! Expand And how do you explain Jim Kelly making it to # 14 and Dan Marino to #27?
3rdand12 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:54 PM, Putin said: We already know that AJ McCarron is not an NFL starting QB , because starting/franchise QB’s do not make it past the 3rd overall pick !! Expand actually, no we don't But i chuckled at your sense of humor about perspective Vladimir !! 2
Alphadawg7 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:43 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: The benefits of having all these picks aren’t just for trying to pull a Saints Ricky Williams deal for a qb...we don’t have to use them all we can move them around and keep adding more picks...cause let’s face it 2018 is basically the year we find out if AJ McCarron is an NFL starting QB or not regardless who we draft to be under center Expand Agreed...Bills in my opinion will stay put at 12 and will still have at least 2 of the top 5 QBs to choose from, and one of them could easily be the top QB on their board as all 5 are closely graded and will differ in ranking from team to team. And even 3 of the top 5 might still be on the board. Only 2 QB's are going top 5...so once the others are dropping down, Bills could make a cheaper move to 7, 8, 9, or 10 to get ahead of the next threat (Dolphins) to grab a guy they might covet too. Personally, I do not believe we will trade up, nor should we, and let the draft come to them. 3 1
3rdand12 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:54 PM, Teddy KGB said: Trade up or die. Starting other teams backups in playoff games will get you 3 points Expand pffhhtt. Trading up means nothing. getting the right Guy is the trick On 3/18/2018 at 9:04 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Agreed...Bills in my opinion will stay put at 12 and will still have at least 2 of the top 5 QBs to choose from, and one of them could easily be the top QB on their board as all 5 are closely graded and will differ in ranking from team to team. And even 3 of the top 5 might still be on the board. Only 2 QB's are going top 5...so once the others are dropping down, Bills could make a cheaper move to 7, 8, 9, or 10 to get ahead of the next threat (Dolphins) to grab a guy they might covet too. Personally, I do not believe we will trade up, nor should we, and let the draft come to them. Expand WHAT ! Thats Crazy talk. Fire Beane now 1
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:54 PM, Putin said: We already know that AJ McCarron is not an NFL starting QB , because starting/franchise QB’s do not make it past the 3rd overall pick !! Expand This narrative has become common around here, and I don’t understand it. The Bills don’t think he’s a franchise QB. They wouldn’t have waited for all the chips to fall before signing him. It appeared that we waited to sign the least costly bridge QB option. It’s possible that the Bills brass felt all of the FA QB’s were close to being equals. This allowed them to wait for the cheapest option to come to them. They wouldn’t have risked McCarron signing elsewhere if they felt he was a franchise QB. I’m not saying that he won’t be the starting QB this season though. The Jets may have put a monkey wrench in their original plans.
Rockinon Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I'm sure the Jets did put a monkey wrench in their plans, but that doesn't mean that the Jets made the right decision. They payed a pretty stiff price to get that spot. People assume that QB is the end all, be all in this draft process, but there is a limit to what is an acceptable price to pay. All of the maneuvering to move higher in the draft is ok so long as you don't mortgage away too much to get there. You still have to field a team. Having a QB is great but if you cannot protect him or at the very least field a defense that can give that QB plenty of opportunities, you are making a huge mistake. You still need a team around that QB to put you in a position to win. I want that franchise, pocket passer as much as anyone, but I do not want to destroy the team to get that passer. Folks need to step back and look at the big picture, but what we are mostly seeing is this stupid mentality that we need a fanchise QB at all costs. 3
xsoldier54 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 8:54 PM, Putin said: We already know that AJ McCarron is not an NFL starting QB , because starting/franchise QB’s do not make it past the 3rd overall pick !! Expand Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but if not you've got to know that this statement is blatantly false. I could name you a dozen franchise QB's who ended up being the best in their franchise's history that were drafted after #3 overall. 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 10:17 PM, Rockinon said: I want that franchise, pocket passer as much as anyone, but I do not want to destroy the team to get that passer. Folks need to step back and look at the big picture, but what we are mostly seeing is this stupid mentality that we need a fanchise QB at all costs. Expand Tl;dr lets keep doing what we’ve always done
BuffaloRush Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Doesn’t change the fact that if you don’t have a QB in the NFL you don’t win on a CONSISTENT basis. We have 17+ years of our own data to back that up. The NFL has much more. The Bills need to draft a Qb 1
PBLESS Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 10:17 PM, Rockinon said: I'm sure the Jets did put a monkey wrench in their plans, but that doesn't mean that the Jets made the right decision. They payed a pretty stiff price to get that spot. People assume that QB is the end all, be all in this draft process, but there is a limit to what is an acceptable price to pay. All of the maneuvering to move higher in the draft is ok so long as you don't mortgage away too much to get there. You still have to field a team. Having a QB is great but if you cannot protect him or at the very least field a defense that can give that QB plenty of opportunities, you are making a huge mistake. You still need a team around that QB to put you in a position to win. I want that franchise, pocket passer as much as anyone, but I do not want to destroy the team to get that passer. Folks need to step back and look at the big picture, but what we are mostly seeing is this stupid mentality that we need a fanchise QB at all costs. Expand
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 10:32 PM, joesixpack said: Tl;dr lets keep doing what we’ve always done Expand pretty much
PBLESS Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I say stay where we are at 12, hope it lands us a good qb prospect. If not we have 6 high picks to make the team a lot better than last year and looking forward to 100 million in cap space next year. The new regime can't undue the mistakes of several previous FOs in one year.
SouthNYfan Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 9:02 PM, jjmac said: And how do you explain Jim Kelly making it to # 14 and Dan Marino to #27? Expand 35 years ago isn't today's NFL
KRT88 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 9:02 PM, jjmac said: And how do you explain Jim Kelly making it to # 14 and Dan Marino to #27? Expand It’s called 1983, night as well been 1493, the scouting was terrible. On 3/18/2018 at 9:04 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Agreed...Bills in my opinion will stay put at 12 and will still have at least 2 of the top 5 QBs to choose from, and one of them could easily be the top QB on their board as all 5 are closely graded and will differ in ranking from team to team. And even 3 of the top 5 might still be on the board. Only 2 QB's are going top 5...so once the others are dropping down, Bills could make a cheaper move to 7, 8, 9, or 10 to get ahead of the next threat (Dolphins) to grab a guy they might covet too. Personally, I do not believe we will trade up, nor should we, and let the draft come to them. Expand I can’t see Arizona staying behind Buffalo if we stay at 12! They need a QB for future too and I could see them moving up to 10.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 10:28 PM, xsoldier54 said: Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but if not you've got to know that this statement is blatantly false. I could name you a dozen franchise QB's who ended up being the best in their franchise's history that were drafted after #3 overall. Expand This is sarcasm poking at the irrationality of a a few who are on a ledge if they don’t trade up, certain it will plunge the franchise into dispair. Just imagine how much better shape we’d be in with Blake Bortles On 3/18/2018 at 10:49 PM, KRT88 said: It’s called 1983, night as well been 1493, the scouting was terrible. I can’t see Arizona staying behind Buffalo if we stay at 12! They need a QB for future too and I could see them moving up to 10. Expand Nope- AZ is all good. They added a top 5 QB guy. Set for at least 5 years.? 1
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