Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) The QB class of 1983 was legendary, with 6 quarterbacks taken in the first round. Three of those first rounders are in the Hall of Fame. But the interesting thing is the order that they were taken: 1. John Elway 7. Todd Blackledge 14. Jim Kelly 15. Tony Eason 24. Ken O'Brien 27. Dan Marino Imagine how upset the Miami fans must have been to settle for Dan Marino at #27. Clearly the Chiefs, Pats and Jets thought that they made better choices. And the Dolphins' message board (if one had existed back then) or the mock draft gurus (if there was such a thing) would have been talking about how Miami needs to trade up to get their franchise guy. Two morals to this story: 1. Make sure you don't take a Todd Blackledge instead of a Hall of Famer 2. Even Hall of Famers don't necessarily win Super Bowls. Of this group, only Elway won a SB and not until 1997, and not until he had lost 3 of them. Collectively they lost 9 of them. So everyone, R-E-L-A-X Edited March 18, 2018 by Norwood for Wall of Fame 11 4
KellyToTasker Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Good post. There is plenty of freaking out, right now. 2 1
BuckeyeBill Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Bills should have taken Kelly at 12 and Marino at 14. Used Marino as trade bait. 2
Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted March 18, 2018 Author Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuckeyeBill said: Bills should have taken Kelly at 12 and Marino at 14. Used Marino as trade bait. What's the matter, you didn't like the Bills taking Tony Hunter ahead of Kelly? 2
JMF2006 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said: The QB class of 1983 was legendary, with 6 quarterbacks taken in the first round. Three of those first rounders are in the Hall of Fame. But the interesting thing is the order that they were taken: 1. John Elway 7. Todd Blackledge 14. Jim Kelly 15. Tony Eason 24. Ken O'Brien 27. Dan Marino Imagine how upset the Miami fans must have been to settle for Dan Marino at #27. Clearly the Chiefs, Pats and Jets thought that they made better choices. And the Dolphins' message board (if one had existed back then) or the mock draft gurus (if there was such a thing) would have been talking about how Miami needs to trade up to get their franchise guy. Two morals to this story: 1. Make sure you don't take a Todd Blackledge instead of a Hall of Famer 2. Even Hall of Famers don't necessarily win Super Bowls. Of this group, only Elway won a SB and not until 1997, and not until he had lost 3 of them. Collectively they lost 9 of them. So everyone, R-E-L-A-X 1. John Elway = Baker Mayfield 7. Todd Blackledge = Josh Rosen 14. Jim Kelly = There is no comparison........ever! 15. Tony Eason= Lamaar Jackson 24. Ken O'Brien= Darnold 27. Dan Marino= nobody close to his talent either. 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I posted this in another thread, but said basically the same thing when everyone was ranting the Jets would get a HOF and we'd get as POS. 1
jaybee Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Cant say it any better than that. Excellent post. 1
1billsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: 1. John Elway = Baker Mayfield 7. Todd Blackledge = Josh Rosen 14. Jim Kelly = There is no comparison........ever! 15. Tony Eason= Lamaar Jackson 24. Ken O'Brien= Darnold 27. Dan Marino= nobody close to his talent either. More like... Baker Mayfield = Colt McCoy Josh Rosen = Sam Bradford Lamar Jackson = DeShaun Watson Sam Darnold = Tony Romo Josh Allen = Kyle Boller IMO, this 2018 class is no where near either the 1983 or 2004 QB draft classes. The expectations of this 2018 QB class never lived up to it's billing. If it did, then the Giants would be drafting a QB (which they won't be doing). 3 1 1
JMF2006 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, 1billsfan said: More like... Baker Mayfield = Colt McCoy Josh Rosen = Sam Bradford Lamar Jackson = DeShaun Watson Sam Darnold = Tony Romo Josh Allen = Kyle Boller IMO, this 2018 class is no where near either the 1983 or 2004 QB draft classes. The expectations of this 2018 QB class never lived up to it's billing. If it did, then the Giants would be drafting a QB (which they won't be doing). But the title of thread is Class of 83. Not random QB comparo
BuffaloBill Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said: The QB class of 1983 was legendary, with 6 quarterbacks taken in the first round. Three of those first rounders are in the Hall of Fame. But the interesting thing is the order that they were taken: 1. John Elway 7. Todd Blackledge 14. Jim Kelly 15. Tony Eason 24. Ken O'Brien 27. Dan Marino Imagine how upset the Miami fans must have been to settle for Dan Marino at #27. Clearly the Chiefs, Pats and Jets thought that they made better choices. And the Dolphins' message board (if one had existed back then) or the mock draft gurus (if there was such a thing) would have been talking about how Miami needs to trade up to get their franchise guy. Two morals to this story: 1. Make sure you don't take a Todd Blackledge instead of a Hall of Famer 2. Even Hall of Famers don't necessarily win Super Bowls. Of this group, only Elway won a SB and not until 1997, and not until he had lost 3 of them. Collectively they lost 9 of them. So everyone, R-E-L-A-X Looking back it is hard to believe that Marino was taken last. Kelly had a better surrounding cast. Marino was the better QB. In the end the order really should have been Elway, Marino, Kelly. Great post because history is an interesting thing. 2
vorpma Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 54 minutes ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said: The QB class of 1983 was legendary, with 6 quarterbacks taken in the first round. Three of those first rounders are in the Hall of Fame. But the interesting thing is the order that they were taken: 1. John Elway 7. Todd Blackledge 14. Jim Kelly 15. Tony Eason 24. Ken O'Brien 27. Dan Marino Imagine how upset the Miami fans must have been to settle for Dan Marino at #27. Clearly the Chiefs, Pats and Jets thought that they made better choices. And the Dolphins' message board (if one had existed back then) or the mock draft gurus (if there was such a thing) would have been talking about how Miami needs to trade up to get their franchise guy. Two morals to this story: 1. Make sure you don't take a Todd Blackledge instead of a Hall of Famer 2. Even Hall of Famers don't necessarily win Super Bowls. Of this group, only Elway won a SB and not until 1997, and not until he had lost 3 of them. Collectively they lost 9 of them. So everyone, R-E-L-A-X Thank you for a great post and much needed sanity on this board, you have restored my faith!
1billsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: But the title of thread is Class of 83. Not random QB comparo Well in the spirit of the thread, I'll say that Lamar Jackson will be this year's Dan Marino. I hope the Bills get him above all the other QBs. Not that he's a lock, just that IMO he's definitely worth using their first pick on because he does have franchise QB potential. Edited March 18, 2018 by 1billsfan 1
Bag of Milk Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Thank you for the posts Norwood For Wall of Fame and 1billsfan. The "We are doomed" had their day, glad to see reasoned posters are prevailing. The beauty of drafting is that it is an inexact science. No one knows which one of Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield will be busts, but history has shown that at least 2 will, and they probably aren't the ones you are thinking of now.
gobills1212 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said: The QB class of 1983 was legendary, with 6 quarterbacks taken in the first round. Three of those first rounders are in the Hall of Fame. But the interesting thing is the order that they were taken: 1. John Elway 7. Todd Blackledge 14. Jim Kelly 15. Tony Eason 24. Ken O'Brien 27. Dan Marino Imagine how upset the Miami fans must have been to settle for Dan Marino at #27. Clearly the Chiefs, Pats and Jets thought that they made better choices. And the Dolphins' message board (if one had existed back then) or the mock draft gurus (if there was such a thing) would have been talking about how Miami needs to trade up to get their franchise guy. Two morals to this story: 1. Make sure you don't take a Todd Blackledge instead of a Hall of Famer 2. Even Hall of Famers don't necessarily win Super Bowls. Of this group, only Elway won a SB and not until 1997, and not until he had lost 3 of them. Collectively they lost 9 of them. So everyone, R-E-L-A-X Know what was special about the 83 qb class and why it's remembered as a once in a generation class? It's the 83 qb class, a once in a generation class! No need to be remembered as it won't soon be forgotten. Edited March 19, 2018 by gobills1212 1
Don't stop billievein Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I can’t figure out what is brought up more often, this or the fact that Trent Dilfer won a SB?
bmur66 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Marino fell due to rumors about him being a party boy. Possibly started by Miami. I don't see any QB's falling due to rumors this year so far. Need to get the fake news going. 1
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said: The QB class of 1983 was legendary, with 6 quarterbacks taken in the first round. Three of those first rounders are in the Hall of Fame. But the interesting thing is the order that they were taken: 1. John Elway 7. Todd Blackledge 14. Jim Kelly 15. Tony Eason 24. Ken O'Brien 27. Dan Marino Imagine how upset the Miami fans must have been to settle for Dan Marino at #27. Clearly the Chiefs, Pats and Jets thought that they made better choices. And the Dolphins' message board (if one had existed back then) or the mock draft gurus (if there was such a thing) would have been talking about how Miami needs to trade up to get their franchise guy. Two morals to this story: 1. Make sure you don't take a Todd Blackledge instead of a Hall of Famer 2. Even Hall of Famers don't necessarily win Super Bowls. Of this group, only Elway won a SB and not until 1997, and not until he had lost 3 of them. Collectively they lost 9 of them. So everyone, R-E-L-A-X So the REAL moral of the story is to pick HOF QB that wins SBs. Simple!
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 you know who else won a superbowl? Mark Rypien. 6th Rounder.
Mat68 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 2004 rivals it. This year looks to me like 2004. There are 5 prospects with completely differant skill sets, make up, and personalities. Depending how Buffalo has their 5 ranked they may not need to trade to 2. I think Mayfiled, Jackson, or Allen can be had around where the Bills pick at. Depending on the situation any of them could become success or bust.
Alaska Darin Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Looking back it is hard to believe that Marino was taken last. Kelly had a better surrounding cast. Marino was the better QB. In the end the order really should have been Elway, Marino, Kelly. Great post because history is an interesting thing. There were rumors being tossed around that Marino was a coke head. There's no way he would have gotten past the second pick based on his talent. The only reason Kelly dropped was his shoulder injury. The headscratcher for me was always Blackledge. Teams fell in love with his measurables but he was never a great QB.
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