Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Could the Jets be moving up for Barkley? They just signed 2 QBs with 2 on their roster already. Bridgewater could be more then a bridge or stop gap guy. Browns go QB, Giants go QB or trade with someone else who now will be scarred of the Jets also going QB and Barkley (or Chubb) falls to them cause everyone thinks they go QB Bridgewater and McCown are both on 1 year deals.
dave mcbride Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Could the Jets be moving up for Barkley? They just signed 2 QBs with 2 on their roster already. Bridgewater could be more then a bridge or stop gap guy. Browns go QB, Giants go QB or trade with someone else who now will be scarred of the Jets also going QB and Barkley (or Chubb) falls to them cause everyone thinks they go QB Absolutely no (with emphasis). They are drafting a QB.
apuszczalowski Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: Bridgewater and McCown are both on 1 year deals. Are they not allowed to re-sign or extend them?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, gobills1212 said: So.. looking up and down the board... there wasn't a SINGLE topic you felt this would have been appropriate for and matched to? Did your parents deprive you of the match game as a child?? Or is this just such a scolding hot take you felt it was worth signing your name to so the world could see?? If you're going to SCOLD someone for a post, should use the right word. SCALDING. 1
apuszczalowski Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Absolutely no (with emphasis). They are drafting a QB. Why not spend over 15 mil this offseason on 2 vets to then give up a buncj of picks to move up a couple spots for a QB...... 1
RyanC883 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 I can see us not trading up and taking a QB at 12. Although getting in front of Denver for Mayfield would be nice. I can hope the Jets take Allen instead of Rosen or Mayfield. But I think they are taking Rosen.
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Are they not allowed to re-sign or extend them? Maybe they don't want to resign. Maybe McCown retires. Maybe Bridgewater balls out and goes to the highest bidder. Way too many variables with the qb position for the Jets to trade up and take Barkley. Yes I know they can franchise Bridgewater. That would only be putting a band aid on a gaping wound though when you can draft a guy at 3 that pry has the same chance at success as Bridgewater has. Plus you're guaranteed at least 5 years if you want it with the 3rd pick. Edited March 17, 2018 by Zebrastripes
BADOLBILZ Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: It is my belief the Colts Targeted either Bradley Chubb primarily and as a 2nd choice Quinten Nelson. Trading down with Buffalo took them out of both players. So the Jets come up, knowing the Browns are locked into Darnold at 1 and the Giants are going Barkley at 2, do a swap of ones and handing the rebuilding Colts three high 2nd round picks. Colts still could get Nelson at 6 assuming Browns take Chubb at 4 and Broncos trade down with Arizona and the Cardinals take a QB. If the Broncos stay at 5 and take Nelson, pick 6 is up for sale, Bills swoop in and trade 12 and higher 2nd to Colts and either get best LB in this draft or remaining QB of their choice. Thoughts? I hope they trade back with us now and then draft somebody that develops and that we can sign away in free agency in 4 years. IMO anytime you are drafting where you can draft a franchise QB...........and you pass on them...........for ANY reason.........it was a missed opportunity. Bruce Smith was a far better player at his position than Philip Rivers is but I'd take Rivers over him 100 out of 100 times. QB's impact franchises. Nobody has been luckier than the Colts wrt drafting in spots where super-talented QB's are available...........but Bradley Chubb could turn into Michael Strahan II and not even be close to the value of a franchise QB.
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: Maybe they don't want to resign. Maybe McCown retires. Maybe Bridgewater balls out and goes to the highest bidder. Way too many variables with the qb position for the Jets to trade up and take Barkley. Yep. The thing about McCown is he wants to become a QB Coach after retiring. I think the Jet's are paying him to lock in on him as a future QB Coach. It's not a bad move when you got a lot of Cap $'s. I was hoping the Bill's could of done that with him. From what I have read he is pretty good at teaching the QB position.
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: Yep. The thing about McCown is he wants to become a QB Coach after retiring. I think the Jet's are paying him to lock in on him as a future QB Coach. It's not a bad move when you got a lot of Cap $'s. I was hoping the Bill's could of done that with him. From what I have read he is pretty good at teaching the QB position. I agree. The guy seems to understand the game on a different level then most. It may have never translated to great success due to the lack of physical tools he has. However he really knows and grasps the mental aspect of the game and it seems as though he has a great way of communicating that with the other qbs in the room.
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Zebrastripes said: I agree. The guy seems to understand the game on a different level then most. It may have never translated to great success due to the lack of physical tools he has. However he really knows and grasps the mental aspect of the game and it seems as though he has a great way of communicating that with the other qbs in the room. With the Bill's having McCarron (not a lot of experience and only being around Dalton), Peterman and a Rookie I still am hoping that the Bill's bring in an older "camp arm" that has got some smarts to help out as a mentor. Or, at least get another Assistant QB Coach to help out.
ALLEN1QB Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 I still don't think Buffalo did all of this wheeling and dealing to get one-upped by the Jets we will work something out to draft with pick one or two I guarantee it
downunderbill Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, gobills1212 said: So.. looking up and down the board... there wasn't a SINGLE topic you felt this would have been appropriate for and matched to? Did your parents deprive you of the match game as a child?? Or is this just such a scolding hot take you felt it was worth signing your name to so the world could see?? Here's an idea. Don't click on it. 1
Fetou Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: I can see us not trading up and taking a QB at 12. Although getting in front of Denver for Mayfield would be nice. I can hope the Jets take Allen instead of Rosen or Mayfield. But I think they are taking Rosen. Rosen won't get past 2. I'm not sure it matters who the team that makes the pick is. 22 minutes ago, PIP said: I still don't think Buffalo did all of this wheeling and dealing to get one-upped by the Jets we will work something out to draft with pick one or two I guarantee it I think moves like trading Watkins and Glenn were the smart thing to do whether there was a master plan to trade up or not. Watkins wasn't deemed good enough to use the franchise tag on, and the Rams let him go to the highest bidder.
Paulus Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, gobills1212 said: So.. looking up and down the board... there wasn't a SINGLE topic you felt this would have been appropriate for and matched to? Did your parents deprive you of the match game as a child?? Or is this just such a scolding hot take you felt it was worth signing your name to so the world could see?? Everyone has their thoughts on the Jets' trade. Apparently, many of them think they need their own thread to express it. This one is a bit more stupid than the others, IMHO. 1
gobills1212 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, downunderbill said: Here's an idea. Don't click on it. Unfortunately, people don't tend to key word tag their own posts as 'waste of a click ' . If they did, your advice would be SPOT ON 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: If you're going to SCOLD someone for a post, should use the right word. SCALDING. Spell check can't catch em all lol. Shld I just toss the phone into some SCALDING hot lava and call it a day? Edited March 17, 2018 by gobills1212
oldmanfan Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: They absolutely tanked. They were a playoff team the prior year, Manning got hurt, and took the season off, and they tanked to get luck, knowing Manning was at the end of his career after that injury, and decided that 1-2 years of Manning wasn't worth passing on luck for. Well, I live outside Indy and no. They brought Kerry Collins in and he quit unexpectedly. And there was no one research available.
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 I would rather have picks 12, 21, 53, 96, and a 2nd rounder next season than take that Jets package. The Bills still would have had 56 and 65 to work on some other needs and not given up much in next years draft.
TigerJ Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 If the OP is right, and he might be, then Buffalo may never have had a chance to convince Indy to trade from #3 to #12. Also if the OP is correct, Indy is not going to pull the trigger on another trade until draft day. I don't think moving from #12 to #6 would be too awful costly. Whether Beane is willing to do it or not depends on how highly he values the remaining QBs and linebackers (QBs - Jackson, Rudolph; LBs - Roquan Smith, Tremaine Edmunds).
downunderbill Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, gobills1212 said: Unfortunately, people don't tend to key word tag their own posts as 'waste of a click ' . If they did, your advice would be SPOT ON. In this case the title was more than enough to come to a "waste of a click" conclusion. You just took the chance to berate someone, Did your parents deprive you of manners?
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