Lurker Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, K-9 said: Much of this makes sense, but we have to also consider the market demand for QBs in any given year as well. In a cooler market, the odds of landing a blue chipper in the 7-12 range are far better than the chances of getting on in that range in a hot market. There is an unusual amount of demand for QBs at the top of the draft this year. So much so, the Jets secured their place at the table well in advance. IDK, there's always more demand than supply. All it takes is two teams bidding for one player to drive the price higher. Next year that will surely be the case as well, and more than likely there will be more demand as the franchise guys age out and good teams look to reload...
K-9 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, DCOrange said: Of course, but there's countless reports at this point that a guy like Rosen is likely to slide, perhaps as far as out of the top 10 entirely. Certainly the Bills can get one of the top 5 QBs in the 7-12 range and there's a good chance they'll have multiple options depending on where in that range they settle in. Pay no attention to the "reports." Like Buddy always said, "We are all trying to rob the same train." I agree there's a "chance" they'll have options in that 7-12 range, but that's all it is. We don't know what grades they've assigned and how their board stacks up. If they've identified a prospect that clearly stands apart from the rest, and I suspect they have at this point, then they should do what it takes to get in a position to land him, which means getting in front of the Jets at a minimum. Especially since we will retain enough picks to conduct a traditional draft with picks remaining in each round (except 7 IIRC).
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Liar.
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Liar. He’s not lying. He doesn’t know because he doesn’t need to know. He’s not picking at #2. 1
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Liar. Nope...he knows he isn't picking at #2, should ask him who is is taking at 12 & 22.... Just now, YoloinOhio said: He’s not lying. He doesn’t know because he doesn’t need to know. He’s not picking at #2. LOL same time again!
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 I want someone to ask him who he’s picking at 22 and see if he flinches 3
Boatdrinks Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Buffalo spent 2 picks to trade up for Losman instead of 5 picks to get Rothlisberger. How'd that work out? There is a drop off in talent between each tier. Let us try to make that mistake, Dave! This is fiction. Bills had a deal done with HOU to move up ahead of PIT for Roethlisberger. It was cancelled last minute by the Texans when DeAngelo Hall was picked by ATL. The ensuing panic move to get Losman was clearly a mistake, but it wasn't the initial plan of attack. It's unknown what the compensation to HOU was, but it was presumably much more than what they gave to move up into the end of round one.
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Nope...he knows he isn't picking at #2, should ask him who is is taking at 12 & 22.... LOL same time again! I’m only slow today because I’m drinking bloody Marys. Judge away! We all have our coping mechanisms. Edited April 19, 2018 by YoloinOhio 3 1
Misterbluesky Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Awesome trade by Gettleman...he owns his old buddy here.
Royale with Cheese Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: This is fiction. Bills had a deal done with HOU to move up ahead of PIT for Roethlisberger. It was cancelled last minute by the Texans when DeAngelo Hall was picked by ATL. The ensuing panic move to get Losman was clearly a mistake, but it wasn't the initial plan of attack. It's unknown what the compensation to HOU was, but it was presumably much more than what they gave to move up into the end of round one. I believe it was either Steve Tasker or Chris Brown the other day that stated a current Bills FO personnel who was in the war room said "we (the Bills) just chickened out at the last second".
BillsFan4 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I’m only slow today because I’m drinking bloody Marys. Judge away! We all have our coping mechanisms. I hear ya man! One week to go... I'm trying to hang in there. lol As excited as I am about draft day, I know I am going to be a total nervous wreck, especially as the teams start going on the clock. Just now, Misterbluesky said: Awesome trade by Gettleman...he owns his old buddy here. You think? I would be thrilled if it only cost two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd to get to #2 overall. We'd still have two 1sts this year, two 2nds, a 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th
Boatdrinks Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I believe it was either Steve Tasker or Chris Brown the other day that stated a current Bills FO personnel who was in the war room said "we (the Bills) just chickened out at the last second". Chris Mortensen reported the looming trade as a " done deal" on ESPNs draft coverage. A short time later, he said the deal was cancelled by the Texans as they were concerned they wouldn't get the CB they wanted at 13. ( the Bills pick). The Bills cancelling the deal would have made zero sense as they obviously would have gotten Roethlisberger. Sounds like something got lost in translation there with CB. I've never heard such a rendition of that day's events. Fwiw
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m only slow today because I’m drinking bloody Marys. Judge away! We all have our coping mechanisms. I'm only slow because I haven't slept all goddamn week...Yum that sounds delightful!
DrDawkinstein Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: This is fiction. Bills had a deal done with HOU to move up ahead of PIT for Roethlisberger. It was cancelled last minute by the Texans when DeAngelo Hall was picked by ATL. The ensuing panic move to get Losman was clearly a mistake, but it wasn't the initial plan of attack. It's unknown what the compensation to HOU was, but it was presumably much more than what they gave to move up into the end of round one. I know what happened on Houston's side. My point was about settling for a second tier QB. The Bills were willing to spend future 1sts anyways. No one was putting together "6 pick deals" back then like they do now. Maybe if they had, it would have been an offer the Texans couldnt refuse. You have to be willing to try and get the best. Edited April 19, 2018 by DrDawkinstein
Royale with Cheese Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Chris Mortensen reported the looming trade as a " done deal" on ESPNs draft coverage. A short time later, he said the deal was cancelled by the Texans as they were concerned they wouldn't get the CB they wanted at 13. ( the Bills pick). The Bills cancelling the deal would have made zero sense as they obviously would have gotten Roethlisberger. Sounds like something got lost in translation there with CB. I've never heard such a rendition of that day's events. Fwiw Well it's a situation of whose report you want to believe. Brown sounded pretty convincing. It wasn't hearsay, he spoke with this guy directly. Said they (other personnel members)to this day will talk about how history would have been much different if they didn't chicken out. So who knows who is right.
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m only slow today because I’m drinking bloody Marys. Judge away! We all have our coping mechanisms. What is your recipe? How much Wooshire sauce, horseradish, lemon ,booze and tomato juice.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Well it's a situation of whose report you want to believe. Brown sounded pretty convincing. It wasn't hearsay, he spoke with this guy directly. Said they (other personnel members)to this day will talk about how history would have been much different if they didn't chicken out. So who knows who is right. I've only heard it was the Texans that killed the trade because they wanted Robinson. And I'm fine believing that. But my point will always be we should have made an offer that was way more enticing than Dunta Robinson.
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