YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: I think that the Giants should really try and screw over their stadium partners and make the trade with the Bills but do it for a swap of like, the Bills #12 and maybe a 5th or 6th rounder, then everyone can sit and laugh at the jets for the ridiculous price they paid to move up 2 spots early This is an underrated thing. I believe it’s a real factor.
SouthNYfan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is an underrated thing. I believe it’s a real factor. It would make me really happy if it was. I hate the Giants almost as much as I hate the Jets. They are #1 and #1a on my hate list. Seeing their fans go bananas after they give the pick away would be glorious. I don't think it'll happen though.
3rdand12 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I'll have a double, tall glass, no ice...
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: It would make me really happy if it was. I hate the Giants almost as much as I hate the Jets. They are #1 and #1a on my hate list. Seeing their fans go bananas after they give the pick away would be glorious. I don't think it'll happen though. I listened to a podcast with Gettleman over the weekend. He seemed bitter that he was fired in Carolina. He seemed like he wanted to be king of NY. It wouldn’t surprise me if he traded the pick and stocked up on big time talent in the draft as a result, plus getting a 1st next year, and making himself the story over whoever the Jets take, and forget burying their big moment by giving their division rival Bills the chance to draft before them. Edited April 12, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
SouthNYfan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I listened to a podcast with Gettleman over the weekend. He seemed bitter that he was fired in Carolina. He seemed like he wanted to be king of NY. It wouldn’t surprise me if he traded the pick and stocked up on big time talent in the draft as a result, and making himself the story over whoever the Jets take, and forget burying their big moment by giving their division rival Bills the chance to draft before them. I don't disagree with everything you just said. The guy you had originally quoted said to "screw the Jets" by giving the Bills #2 for #12 and a 5th or 6th rounder to make the Jets look dumb for overpaying. That's what I meant about "not happening" A trade could still happen, just not for that price lol
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: I don't disagree with everything you just said. The guy you had originally quoted said to "screw the Jets" by giving the Bills #2 for #12 and a 5th or 6th rounder to make the Jets look dumb for overpaying. That's what I meant about "not happening" A trade could still happen, just not for that price lol Oh yeah I don’t see that happening. But the intent to be the bigger headline in NY on 4/27, yes. 1
SouthNYfan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Oh yeah I don’t see that happening. But the intent to be the bigger headline in NY on 4/27, yes. I would love it. I mean Jets still get their choice of 2 of the top 4 QBs, so it wouldn't screw them that badly, but it would allow their division rival a QB also, who just might be better than the one they get
nucci Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffaloflash said: It's funny reading all the insanity in this thread! With all the holes in our roster,we can't give up nothing!and in fact we may end up moving down to acquire more picks if anything. If we get lucky, we may come away with Mayfield or Jackson either one I'm fine with. we need a QB and we have plenty of picks to get one and to address other needs
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: I would love it. I mean Jets still get their choice of 2 of the top 4 QBs, so it wouldn't screw them that badly, but it would allow their division rival a QB also, who just might be better than the one they get I think It would just be overshadowing that they moved up to 3 and clearly will get a top QB but then the Bills getting ahead of them will make it look like they may not have gotten the top QB on their board, in fact they may have traded all of that capital to move up 3 spots and got the 3rd QB on their board. True or not (maybe that’s who they wanted all along and would have taken him at 1,2 or 3) it can be spun to make them look stupid by anyone with that intent in the ny media (and those guys are out there) Edited April 12, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
PIZ Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: The eagles, I think , waited about a week before the draft before pulling the trigger, so hopefully we can get a deal done before draft day. This wondering and waiting is exhausting. Wednesday, April 20, 2016: "The Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft in a trade with the Cleveland Browns on Wednesday, the Eagles announced. The Browns will receive Philadelphia's No. 8 overall pick, a third- and fourth-round selection in this draft, next year's first-round pick and a second-round pick in 2018. The Eagles also got a conditional fifth-round pick (a compensatory fourth-rounder, if available) from the Browns next season". Thursday, April 28, 2016: First day of 2016 NFL Draft. Perhaps Wednesday, April 18, 2018, we will get our wish?
aristocrat Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Three ones is a nice package. I don’t know if the giants think it’s a great offer but it’s the best one on the table guaranteed. We get to keep the the seconds and thirds and hopefully fill out our holes there. 1
Yav Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 15 hours ago, Tcali said: that would be insane. peyton manning,john elway or andrew luck arent available in this draft. I agree, and I'm not saying I like the idea, I just see it taking that much to move up to #2. Personally I'd rather they roll with AJ and keep the draft picks. What have any of these kids coming out of college done that he hasn't? At the same time I can understand everyone's frustration with finding a QB.
Chuck Wagon Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 It may sound stupid, but one of my biggest reasons for wanting to trade up prior to the draft outside of the relief of knowing we got there, is this guy is going to come in viewed as the current and future face of the franchise immediately, I really don't want this moment: 1
Ramza86 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 When they say blue print...that means the Giants are only willing to trade if their guy is off the board.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 Albert Breer: NFL Draft Rumors Start in ClevelandLate first-round picks lack value. The other day, I was spit-balling on a potential Bills-Giants swap with a team exec, who said to me, “The problem is that the 22nd pick might as well be in the third round.” He was exaggerating, but only a little bit. The consensus I’ve heard is the difference between 22 and 52 is minimal this year, which is part of why the Colts did well to land a couple high second-rounders in their trade with the Jets. 3
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: When they say blue print...that means the Giants are only willing to trade if their guy is off the board. It would seem that they have an agreement in principle, but there are conditions that one or both sides would like to see met before executing the deal. Giants clearly want more time to see if anyone offers more than what we have on the table, and maybe they want to see who the Browns select. The Bills may also want to see who the Browns select. Ultimately, I believe both sides gain from waiting until the Browns have officially made their selection.
ddaryl Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, cba fan said: Blueprint Shoeprint. If they have a deal it would have been done already. No reason to wait. I would sit on that pick till the last minute on the clock at the draft to see if there is any other team willing ot out bid us No reason at all to trade that pick now unless the bIlls were massively over paying like the Jests did Edited April 12, 2018 by ddaryl
Chuck Wagon Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Albert Breer: NFL Draft Rumors Start in ClevelandLate first-round picks lack value. The other day, I was spit-balling on a potential Bills-Giants swap with a team exec, who said to me, “The problem is that the 22nd pick might as well be in the third round.” He was exaggerating, but only a little bit. The consensus I’ve heard is the difference between 22 and 52 is minimal this year, which is part of why the Colts did well to land a couple high second-rounders in their trade with the Jets. I speculated a couple of days ago that it may be better to move up from 22 into the low teens if it's possible at all. I don't think pick 12 vs ~7 is the problem, I think it's the other picks. It also gives some perspective on the Cordy Glenn trade, the Bills did great to move from 21 into the 2nd level of prospects by giving up a guy who seemingly had checked out when the ink was dry on his deal. At 12 you know you are getting one of Ward / Edmonds / Smith / Fitzpatrick / James, it drops off quick after that.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 15 hours ago, DJB said: Unless we trade up for our QB, Ill be heartbroken. .. 15 hours ago, PIZ said: So, say Allen goes #1. Bills get #2. Who do we pick out of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield? And how many people will feel out at whoever we draft?
thebandit27 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I speculated a couple of days ago that it may be better to move up from 22 into the low teens if it's possible at all. I don't think pick 12 vs ~7 is the problem, I think it's the other picks. It also gives some perspective on the Cordy Glenn trade, the Bills did great to move from 21 into the 2nd level of prospects by giving up a guy who seemingly had checked out when the ink was dry on his deal. At 12 you know you are getting one of Ward / Edmonds / Smith / Fitzpatrick / James, it drops off quick after that. Perhaps, but if there are only 18-20 first-round grades, then all it takes is one or two teams doing something relatively unexpected (which almost always happens in the top 20) to push one of those guys to 22. I think they have the ammo to pull it off
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