DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 has any GM ever just came out and said our plan is to move up? or where they move up to? he will keep everyone guessing right up until the pick they trade up for on draft day. 1
Inigo Montoya Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I think he’s telling the truth and lying at the same time. I think he desperately wants to trade up and grab a marquise QB but doesn’t want to tip his hand, and he is also truthful when he says he doesn’t know what he’s going to do because until the draft starts, and the picks are made and phone calls start flying back and forth, he has no idea what he will do. 1
RochesterRob Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: And he could come to this conclusion about the QB he wants and realize he's not falling out of the top 5. He's admitted he's not done evaluating the QBs, so it's all just kind of a throw away comment. Yep, don't read into too much of what is said as if you show you are desperate then you are going to get taken to the cleaners.
Shaw66 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Do I think they'll trade up? Yes. Do I think Beane is lying about not knowing if he will trade up? No. In my experience, I've heard very few GMs talk in such an open and straightforward manner as Beane does. Here's what he said: I haven't focused on the draft. Until now I've been focused on free agency. We evaluate potential free agents more or less the way we put together a draft board, figuring out what each guy is worth to us. That's what I've been doing. Now I will begin to focus on the draft. I don't know nearly enough about any of the top players, and I will by the time the draft comes. We will put a value on each guy. We haven't done that. When we know how good each guy is, then we can talk to teams to find out what they want for their picks and we can decide whether we think it's worth what they want to get the guy we we want. I don't know whether there's a deal to be made or not, because I don't enough about the players and I don't know yet what teams at the top of the draft want. What part of that don't you believe? The question no one asked, which he would have ducked, is given what you know now about the QBs, what do you think the chances are you'll trade up? I'd say 80%. I'd guess he'd say the same. That's what I'd like to know. Here's the thing: I don't think any one of the rookies has a resume that looks like Luck's or Newton's coming out of college. None of these guys has the same high probability of success that those guys had. If I'm right about that, then the teams that need QBs aren't going to be so excited about trading up. And the teams that are up there already that need QBs may not be so anxious to roll the dice. Look at the extreme year, when EJ and Geno were generally the two highest rated guys coming out. There was no stampede to trade up; in fact, as you know, the Bills traded DOWN and still got the guy they wanted. So maybe Beane isn't all that impressed with these guys. Maybe he actually IS content to sit at 12 and take the best QB left on the board. Maybe he likes that better than coughing up his 22d pick and a second round pick. That doesn't seem to be a completely crazy prospect. On the other hand, how likely is it that he already knows he loves a guy so much he's going to the top of the draft to get him? Looking at the rookies we're talking about, I don't think it's very likely. In other words, I think he's telling the truth when he says he doesn't know if he's trading up. 3 4
Nanker Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Whose draft board is that? http://drafttek.com Our very own Astro is the Bills contributor to that site. Not saying these are his picks, it's the rolling consensus of all the teams' contributors. 2
Rc2catch Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I think the whole thing is based on who does what. He’s not going to give a ton to move up. There’s no guarantee those quarterbacks are all going in the top 10. If he can sit at 12 and still get one of their top 3 ranked quarterbacks and keep all their picks that’s huge. I also think a lot of people are undervaluing what Mccarron May bring to the table here. They can win now with Mccarron and still go after an elite quarterback prospect next year. I just don’t think he’s giving away all these picks just for the sake of moving up. We will know in a few weeks though 1
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 What did you expect him to say? "We're gonna trade up no matter the cost"? 1 1
prissythecat Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Would everyone's head explode if the Bills don't trade up to get a QB. 1
par73 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 He addressed this exactly the way I expected. Really, what else is he going to say?
simool Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I wonder if the Bills drug test front office employees?
dickleyjones Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 how could he be 'certain'? he'd have to have a trade partner all lined up, with some sort of contract written so they can't back out. he doesn't have that.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I don't know what people expected him to say... "Yeah we want to get into the top 5 to get a QB. We are trying to work out a trade with one of the teams and hoping we can get it done" ??
Nanker Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said: I don't know what people expected him to say... "Yeah we want HAVE to get into the top 5 to get a QB. We are DESPERATELY trying to work out a trade with one of the teams and hoping BEYOND HOPE THAT we can get it done NO MATTER WHAT THE COST." ?? FIFY That might possibly satisfy some of the fans around here.
Saxum Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, JoeF said: How do you know Brandon Beane is lying this time of year? His lips are moving... Sounds like a lot of posters - How do you know they are lying this time of year? They are typing.
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 The only way Beane would know for sure what he will do is if he had the #1 pick. Other than that it depends on how the draft falls and who will deal what. Beane wasn't here yet last year, but I think the Bills showed last year, that they will pass on a QB if he isn't the one that they want. So they might narrow it down to two that they are willing to trade up for, and if they can't get one of those two, they won't trade up. I think he is honest that they don't know what they will do.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Whose draft board is that? Dunkirk Dons of course (joking)
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I cant shake this feeling that we will trade into the top 3 before draft day
NickelCity Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said: I cant shake this feeling that we will trade into the top 3 before draft day Agreed. The 2 spot if I were a betting man. 1
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