DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Tyrod's friend said: As it stands, right now, to win in 2018 and quite possibly beyond, the Bills biggest need is not QB. Yes it is, I dont have to read anything past that point. It is our biggest need now, just as it has been our biggest need for the past 20 years. Or have you been in a coma? 1 minute ago, BigBuff423 said: Here’s the other thing to consider, Buffalo is essentially done in FA, that means all these “holes” need to be filled via the Draft. That means they need all these picks....just food for thought. Plugging the QB hole makes every other hole on the roster a lot smaller. 1
Tyrod's friend Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, the skycap said: According to most posters favorite ex-GM, he's the 2nd best prospect in the draft. First being Saquan Barkley. I realize. Not at 2nd. A RB taken #1 overall? Feh, yeah, I suppose possibly. A GUARD at #2, on that team? It just cannot happen. Especially since there is not that much difference between him and Hernandez or several other offensive interior lineman. It's just stupid to the first order. 1
Matt_In_NH Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Here’s the other thing to consider, Buffalo is essentially done in FA, that means all these “holes” need to be filled via the Draft. That means they need all these picks....just food for thought. All the holes are not getting filled period. There will be holes going into the season. Some of the holes will get filled with lower end FA's. 1
K D Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, mattynh said: All the holes are not getting filled period. 1 4
Tyrod's friend Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes it is, I dont have to read anything past that point. It is our biggest need now, just as it has been our biggest need for the past 20 years. Or have you been in a coma? Plugging the QB hole makes every other hole on the roster a lot smaller. If it's the biggest need FOR RIGHT NOW then the rookie should start day one, without exception. I don't see it. And making challenging, stupid comments like "or have you been in a coma" makes you a fool, especially in light of the way I couched my statement.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Ben was a much better prospect than Allen. But I will be very disappointed if we grab Allen because he has a "big arm." This is like grabbing a WR just because he has a fast 40 time, IMO. They have the assets to get to #2........so unless they think there is only one future franchise QB this year then there would be no excuse not to get one. The outlook for the 2019 crop of QB's is as underwhelming as any in recent memory. Nice crop of pass rushers........would be a better time to fill that want. So if they don't get a QB this year that probably means kicking that can off to 2020.........which is a bad time-frame for Beane and McD. Very important to note.......McD already pushed addressing that QB decision off one year.......pushing it off 4 years probably won't work, IMO. 1
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: AZ is at 15 and needs a QB too. Could be 5 QBs gone in the first 15 picks. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2018/03/15/free-agency-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-lamar-jackson/425514002/
dulles Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, SoFFacet said: Because he's not on the Bills' board and they hate him. OR because he's #1 on the Bills' board and they don't want to give that impression. OR because he knows other teams are parsing his every word because they think he might speak 100% truthfully to the media for some reason even when he has no incentive to do so, and he knows that if he doesn't mention Jackson, another team will interpret that to mean he loves Jackson, and may therefore try to trade ahead of Buffalo to get him, but little do they know that this is all a ploy to get someone to waste a pick on Jackson, because they have no intention to draft him anyway! So yeah, back to reality. Read nothing into his comments. So which one is our GM? https://youtu.be/3EkBuKQEkio?t=129 Edited March 16, 2018 by dulles
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 he wont reveal moving up to anyone. why would he? draft day will tell the story, until then we all live in speculationville. 1
What a Tuel Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 anyone have a working link to the press conference? Can't find it anywhere and the WIVB link isn't working. I feel like you are all conspiring to hide the announcement that we moved up to #1 overall from me.
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: If it's the biggest need FOR RIGHT NOW then the rookie should start day one, without exception. I don't see it. And making challenging, stupid comments like "or have you been in a coma" makes you a fool, especially in light of the way I couched my statement. Given the (eventual) success of rookie starters like Luck, Carr, Winston, Mariota, Goff, Wentz, Trubisky, Watson... yeah, our rookie probably should start. Or at least there shouldnt be a problem with him starting. Rookies start right away nowadays. Welcome back to the land of the living. Just now, What a Tuel said: anyone have a working link to the press conference? Can't find it anywhere and the WIVB link isn't working. I feel like you are all conspiring to hide the announcement that we moved up to #1 overall from me. It was streaming live on WGR.com, but is over now. Edited March 16, 2018 by DrDawkinstein 1
Tyrod's friend Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: If they don't get a top QB prospect in this draft..........after passing on Watson and Mahomes..........things could turn very sour in the next 9 months.. You don't pass on a potential franchise QB over an extra second round pick. They overpaid to get Lotuelelei they'd better do what it takes to get their QB. I think they are smart enough to understand that but we'll know soon enough. The think I like about this organization NOW is that they seem to embrace their process; they won't give two goddamns what you think or Dr.Dawkenstein or anyone else. They started a 5th round pick in the middle of playoff push. They could give a **** about "the next 9 months" and how you feel. 1
GG Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Not at all. All I'm saying is stick to the board. Don't chase a QB you don't have highly ranked because you "need a QB." They go after Rosen or Mayfield I'll be happy. That's the strategy that's landed them in QB purgatory and left them with picking EJ Manuel in a horrible QB year. If they truly believe that the top 4 guys are franchise QBs, then they absolutely need to do whatever it takes to move up. 2
What a Tuel Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It was streaming live on WGR.com, but is over now. Thanks, I found it. http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/03-16-brandon-beane-press-conference
BuffaloBill Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, AmishRifle said: Beane Presser Takeaways (please feel free to add more as I know I missed some) --Wished Tyrod well and said he'll be rooting for him except when he's playing Buffalo --Thanked all of his Scouts and Staff for their preparation on Free Agency --Admitted that the salary cap will not support any further large Free Agent signings, you may see small depth signings. "Nothing to make the ticker" --Believes in building strong, attacking Defensive Line and protecting Offensive Line (Explaining the DT and DE signings). Aligns with McDermott on this. --Eric Wood remains in same status. Has become a back burner issue with Free Agency and Draft prep. --Emphatically stated that he hasn't completed his prep of potential draftees. His sole focus now is draft preparation. --Skirted the trade up questions with the statement above on not being able to reach a decision yet as the draft preparation is not complete. --Alluded to the notion that they could in fact stay at 12 and get a very good player. --Talked openly of his philosophy of not chasing players, about setting value as in floor and ceiling, and not going outside of that value. --Sees McCarron as having an opportunity to compete for starting position. Called several coaches, including Marvin Lewis, before making his decision. --Stated that they are using a very methodical approach to decision making. --Stated that he's never comfortable with a roster (Answer to "are you comfortable with your wide receivers" question) --Happy to get Richie Incognito restructured. Coming off Pro Bowl year. Important to do. Not much detail on the restructure. Again, feel free to add for those that couldn't listen. This guy seems to be very good though this upcoming draft will make or break him. If he lands “the” QB and some additional quality depth in the draft he will become the best GM in Buffalo other than Polian. String together some very competitive teams and he will move past Polian. It’s fun to watch this unfold. 1
GG Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Tyrod's friend said: The think I like about this organization NOW is that they seem to embrace their process; they won't give two goddamns what you think or Dr.Dawkenstein or anyone else. They started a 5th round pick in the middle of playoff push. They could give a **** about "the next 9 months" and how you feel. Next 9 months will show whether the top QBs in this draft are franchise worthy. If they don't pick one, coupled with passing on Mahomes & Watson, then the McBeane tenure won't be long at OBD (just like everyone else in the last 2 decades) Of course, I doubt that happens because everything that Beane has done since coming here points to upgrading the QB position
ndirish1978 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: yeah, ok Beane I don't think he'd lying at this point in time. He has been focused on FA and has repeatedly stated he's not drafting a QB without getting to know them first. It's a convenient for him to say this now because it's currently true. Once they have private workouts with all the QBs they are interested in, he will know what they are doing. 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: So we are about done in free agency - I was hoping for the money badger...oh well Done signing other team's free agents. He did say we have offers out to Preston and EJ.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: This guy seems to be very good though this upcoming draft will make or break him. If he lands “the” QB and some additional quality depth in the draft he will become the best GM in Buffalo other than Polian. String together some very competitive teams and he will move past Polian. It’s fun to watch this unfold. ...this actual his FIRST Buffalo draft, so "first and only" is a bit over the top IMO,,,,,,,
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: For what it's worth, I gave @BADOLBILZ a ton for flack during and after the 2016 draft because he was saying he would rather take a chance on Paxton Lynch over drafting Shaq Lawson. And as it's played out, even though Lynch hasnt become a starter, Lawson hasnt been that great either. In hindsight, taking a flyer on the most important position would probably have been a better choice there. Or at least equivalent. Same deal here in 2018. The Bills biggest need is STILL QB. That should be the main focus until we get one. Two recent happenings have made taking first round chances on QB even more of wise choice than when I started pounding the table here over a decade ago: 1) The 4 year first round contract...........since the drought began 1st round contracts went from 6yr to 5yr and now 4 with an option......an option that often amounts to the gravity using a tag........a hard trigger to pull on many players........like or even better than Shaq.........who the Bills will have to decide in the next 12 months if they want to pick up ALREADY........and he hasn't peed a drop. 2) Teams much more effectively using free agency and trades to match their systems to proven pro talent. The Eagles and Pats were absolutely loaded with players that they had evaluated on the pro level and acquired. Guys like Hyde and Poyer are prime examples. Their prior teams really just served to develop them for Buffalo. The Skin's got one good season out of spending a second round pick on Trent Murphy..........the Bills think they will get 3. FA still has it's pitfalls but it's not nearly the crapshoot it was years ago. You can really make a huge difference at reasonable rates in FA now.
Radar Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, GG said: That's the strategy that's landed them in QB purgatory and left them with picking EJ Manuel in a horrible QB year. If they truly believe that the top 4 guys are franchise QBs, then they absolutely need to do whatever it takes to move up. I don't know a whole lot personally about these prospects other than from media reports. They can create a franchise player once it has time to snowball in the fan base. So, I hope the scouts of the team know and don't react to the buildup that could be over done. Every draft we have guys drop down that were reported to be great. So if we give up all these assets to get a guy I'm trusting the guys in the front office and not a mock draft or Mel Kiper guys who get paid to draw listeners.
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