Bills4life1924 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 We are all aware the bills are going after the quarterback that they are targeting with another trade up in the 1st rd. But, If Leighton Vander Esch (or another top linebacker) slides to the 2nd day of the draft, I wouldn't be surprised if Beane works the phone after the 1st rd late Thursday night and Friday afternoon to move to the top of the 2nd rd. I only see this happening if the trade up in the 1st rd involves a 2019 2nd or 3rd. This way we have more ammunition to trade up in the 2nd rd this year and grab our hand picked MLB. I know it's quite a bit of draft capital to pull off 2 trade ups. But I would be all for it. With the few picks We would have left, they could use for lineman, cb or another rb(I just don't see us taking wr early in draft, and typically late rd wr's dont produce right away)We have mega cap space next year to fill holes during free agency. Thoughts??
H2o Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 The trade up in the 1st will be costly enough. I can't see us ransoming the whole draft on two picks basically 1
Bills4life1924 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, H2o said: The trade up in the 1st will be costly enough. I can't see us ransoming the whole draft on two picks basically We have 9 picks this year. Let's say we trade for pick #3. I can see us giving up both 1's, one of our 2nd's, our 4th and next year's 2nd/3rd would prob get that done. That leaves us 5 picks to work with this year. To trade to top of rd 2, we could prob get it done with our other 2nd and 1st pick of rd 3. This would give us our qb, our middle lb and have 3 picks left over. It's wishful thinking and I wouldn't be surprised if McBeane went this route. Edited March 15, 2018 by Bills4life1924
OldTimer1960 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, H2o said: The trade up in the 1st will be costly enough. I can't see us ransoming the whole draft on two picks basically +1 2 minutes ago, Bills4life1924 said: We have 9 picks this year. Let's say we trade for pick #3. I can see us giving up both 1's, one of our 2nd's, our 4th and next year's 2nd/3rd would prob get that done. That leaves us 5 picks to work with this year. To trade to top of rd 2, we could prob get it done with our other 2nd and 1st pick or rd 3. This would give us our qb, our middle lb and have 3 picks left over. It' But those 3 picks left over are more lottery tickets than vouchers guaranteeing good players. Not or saying it would necessarily be a bad plan, but leaving a draft in which you had 5 picks in the top 65 and 6 in top 100 with only 2 players would be tough to accept. Still, I accept that trading up for a QB will cost at least both firsts and likely at least one 2nd.
Bills4life1924 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: +1 But those 3 picks left over are more lottery tickets than vouchers guaranteeing good players. Not or saying it would necessarily be a bad plan, but leaving a draft in which you had 5 picks in the top 65 and 6 in top 100 with only 2 players would be tough to accept. Still, I accept that trading up for a QB will cost at least both firsts and likely at least one 2nd. Not that I want them to give up draft capital. I just threw this out there bc McBeane is not afraid to deal, and we gotta find our MLB somewhere. Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924
H2o Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Trade up to get your QB and then go BPA. If BPA fills a position of need even better. 2
Bills4life1924 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 I'm just saying, I could see McBeane going this route. Especially bc we know they are no strangers to pull the trigger.
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I think that only the first 3 rounds are significant in the draft. After that, I don't think there is too much difference between UFA and a guy from the middle of the 7th round. 1
pimp on da' net Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, Bills4life1924 said: We have 9 picks this year. Let's say we trade for pick #3. I can see us giving up both 1's, one of our 2nd's, our 4th and next year's 2nd/3rd would prob get that done. That leaves us 5 picks to work with this year. To trade to top of rd 2, we could prob get it done with our other 2nd and 1st pick of rd 3. This would give us our qb, our middle lb and have 3 picks left over. It's wishful thinking and I wouldn't be surprised if McBeane went this route. Before you throughout hypotheticals, here's a helpful reference for you... NFL Draft Trade Value Chart ROUND 1 ROUND 2 ROUND 3 ROUND 4 ROUND 5 ROUND 6 ROUND 7 Pos Value Pos Value Pos Value Pos Value Pos Value Pos Value Pos Value 1 3000 33 580 65 266 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14 2 2600 34 570 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 27 194 14 3 2200 35 560 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26 195 13 4 1800 36 550 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 26 196 13 5 1700 37 540 69 245 101 96 133 40 165 25 197 13 6 1600 38 530 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12 7 1500 39 520 71 235 103 88 135 39 167 25 199 12 8 1400 40 510 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24 200 11 9 1350 41 500 73 225 105 84 137 38 169 24 201 11 10 1300 42 490 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23 202 11 11 1250 43 480 75 215 107 80 139 37 171 23 203 10 12 1200 44 470 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 23 204 10 13 1150 45 460 77 205 109 76 141 36 173 22 205 9 14 1100 46 450 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 22 206 9 15 1050 47 440 79 195 111 72 143 35 175 21 207 9 16 1000 48 430 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8 17 950 49 420 81 185 113 68 145 34 177 21 209 8 18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20 210 7 19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 33 179 20 211 7 20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32 180 19 212 7 21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 32 181 19 213 6 22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31 182 19 214 6 23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18 215 5 24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 31 184 18 216 5 1
Bills4life1924 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, PIP said: Or trade down get some pics for next year I hear ya there, wouldn't mind that at all. I'm just curious to where our linebackers come from, especially MLB. Unless we can resign the manageable Preston Brown or maybe Bowman. But MLB is one of the most important position's in this defense. I bet McBeane Want's their Kuechly. It's all hypothetical, but I wanted to hear from other member's if they would be for it or against it. Good call, pimp on da' net... I was inflating the 1st rd trade up bc teams are gonna be asking for more than the value. But if we could trade up for less than I threw out there, even better!! Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924 1
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 We traded down once last year and traded up twice. We came away from last year’s draft with 6 players. I expect something similar this year. I like that this fromt office goes and gets the players they have targeted. 1
Bills4life1924 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: We traded down once last year and traded up twice. We came away from last year’s draft with 6 players. I expect something similar this year. I like that this fromt office goes and gets the players they have targeted. Good call, we had a great draft last year! I really wouldn't mind if we came out of this draft with just 5-6 picks. As long as we have our qb, our qb of the defense and some nice depth guys. 1
Boca BIlls Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, PIP said: Or trade down get some pics for next year Not worth it with late round draft picks
Bills4life1924 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Not worth it with late round draft picks I took his quote as trading our other 2nd for a 3rd this year and 2nd and later rd pick next year. If the board doesn't look good to McBeane when they pick, then I would be for a trade back. But I still say trade up and get your MLB of the future if the guy they like is there Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924
Billznut Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) I think there is a decent chance the Bills have to trade their 2019 1st in the tradeup to #2 or #3. IF they end up giving away next years 1st, I could see Beane obtaining a 2019 #1 from a team in exchange for one of our 2s and one of our 3s. That would then give them a full compliment of picks back for 2019 and still have whatever picks are leftover this year as well with obviously #2 or #3 overall and our QB as the ultimate prize. Edited March 16, 2018 by Billznut
Bills4life1924 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Now with Preston gone. I could see this scenario playing out. Or atleast a trade to acuire a LB from another teams roster. I just have a feeling they want their guy hand picked and they will trade one way or another to acquire him. Edited March 16, 2018 by Bills4life1924
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