jkirchofer Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Why bring in McCarron or trade for Foles if you intend to draft a QB in the top 5? The cost would be too high for the projected role. If you are going to flip draft picks for a starting QB, it better be for a someone that is going to carry the franchise. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if someone doesn't pry Luck free from Indianapolis. I would offer 22 and 65 for him, giving the Colts the ability to draft a QB at 3 and start their rebuild with 22. That way the Bills could draft best player available at 12 or trade back. I know his health is a concern, but he is handling the rehab of his shoulder the right way and news from the last week leads everyone to believe he will be ready to go come preseason workouts.
ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: am still holding out hope for a Foles trade. trade makes too much sense for philly to pass on getting a high draft pick and relieve cap concerns Fitz signed with Tampa Bay 5 days ago The eagles don't HAVE to trade Foles. They are in a great position with him as backup and Went coming off an injury. They already turned down a 2nd rounder from someone and I'm not even remotely convinced it was us. This isn't a "buyer's market" as has been indicated by some hopeful people around here, it's a "if you want to make us an offer we can't turn down I guess we have to do it" situation. We're going to have to trade both of our firsts to get our QB, so where is the extra 1st required to acquire this placeholder QB? I don't care for McCarron, but this is currently the only job open in the league. You sign him to a 2 year deal for backup money and tell him he's got a chance to start and earn a payday somewhere else. I'm not blowing draft picks on a guy I'm rooting not to start anyway. Edited March 13, 2018 by ndirish1978
billsredneck1 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: oh you were serious? You want me to answer "does a team have to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND pass the domdab99 test to realy be a playoff team?" I just figured you were playing semantics. Yes, they made the playoffs. So, technically, the Bills are "a playoff team." I know that. So does everyone else. However, we also all know that the Bills team last year was mediocre at best, and we only made the playoffs because the Colts coach made worse decisions than Mac did, and because Andy Dalton decided to pretend to be an elite QB for one play. So, while I'd love for them to make the playoffs again, I'd much rather them build a strong foundation for a team that becomes a perennial Super Bowl contender, like the Pats, Steelers, Packers, Seahawks, etc. Does that answer your question? you quoted me...but i have no idea what you're talking about. maybe you meant to qoute someone else? btw , i haven't read all the posts so i don't know what said test is////
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: With Brees, Garoppolo, Cousins, Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater gone, it all comes down to these options: (there are other QBs but I dont think they are going to happen) Tier 1: (not a FA) Nick Foles Tier 2: (All FA) Aj McCarron Josh McCown Tier 3: (All FA) Derek Anderson Tom Savage Chase Daniel Matt Moore Colin Kaepernick Geno Smith Chad Henne Wonder who the Bills sign / get. I think you have Geno a little too high on that list
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: you quoted me...but i have no idea what you're talking about. maybe you meant to qoute someone else? btw , i haven't read all the posts so i don't know what said test is//// yes, I meant to quote someone else. Just enjoy the warm fuzziness of complete confusion for a few seconds more, though. It's my gift to you.
Stank_Nasty Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: and we only made the playoffs because the Colts coach made worse decisions than Mac did, and because Andy Dalton decided to pretend to be an elite QB for one play. the lamest things I've seen around here lately are people downplaying the playoffs by nit picking certain games and plays that swung the season and acting as if you cant say that about almost any other playoff team for numerous games.... I don't understand how people cant see how foolish that looks. Edited March 13, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 2
#34fan Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I'd be shocked if they had the stones to go grab Foles.... I'm thinking McCarron will be on our roster by Friday. 1
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: the lamest things I've seen around here lately are people downplaying the playoffs by nit picking certain games and plays that have swung the season and acting as if you cant say that about almost any other playoff team for numerous games.... I don't understand how people cant see how foolish that looks. Are you saying the Bills were a legit playoff team? That they had a a real shot of making the Super Bowl? That everything that broke their way wasn't really lucky?
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: oh you were serious? You want me to answer "does a team have to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND pass the domdab99 test to realy be a playoff team?" I just figured you were playing semantics. Yes, they made the playoffs. So, technically, the Bills are "a playoff team." I know that. So does everyone else. However, we also all know that the Bills team last year was mediocre at best, and we only made the playoffs because the Colts coach made worse decisions than Mac did, and because Andy Dalton decided to pretend to be an elite QB for one play. So, while I'd love for them to make the playoffs again, I'd much rather them build a strong foundation for a team that becomes a perennial Super Bowl contender, like the Pats, Steelers, Packers, Seahawks, etc. Does that answer your question? Sort of. It's not just you. I just tire of every time the Bills do something good, there is a long string of yeah butts. Hotrod was not very good. Tim Dalton, blah blah blah. Do other teams do this too? Giants - We won the Super Bowl. yeah butt, the other teams FG kicker missed a 47 yard gimme. Steelers - We won the Super Bowl. Yeah, butt the other team's TE dropped an easy pass in the EZ. Patsies - We won a playoff game. Yeah butt, the ref called a tuck. Steelers- We won a playoff game, yeah butt, Franco made a lucky play on the Immaculate Reception Steelers - We won the game. Yeah butt, the other teams WR dropped a pass in the EZ in OT Vikings - We won a playoff game. Yeah butt, that DB for the Saints took a bad angle on the football Fish - We made the playoffs. Yeah butt, the other team only had 10 men on the fields when Jay made the big game sealing run. Luck is part of the game too and every year is different. No yeah butts requried IMHO. Edited March 13, 2018 by reddogblitz 3
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Sort of. It's not just you. I just tire of every time the Bills do something good, there is a long string of yeah butts. Hotrod was not very good. Tim Dalton, blah blah blah. Do other teams do this too? Giants - We won the Super Bowl. yeah butt, the other teams FG kicker missed a 47 yard gimme. Steelers - We won the Super Bowl. Yeah, butt the other team's TE dropped an easy pass in the EZ. Patsies - We won a playoff game. Yeah butt, the ref called a tuck. Steelers- We won a playoff game, yeah butt, Franco made a lucky play on the Immaculate Reception Steelers - We won the game. Yeah butt, the other teams WR dropped a pass in the EZ in OT Vikings - We won a playoff game. Yeah butt, that DB for the Saints took a bad angle on the football Fish - We made the playoffs. Yeah butt, the other team only had 10 men on the fields when Jay made the big game sealing run. Luck is part of the game too and every year is different. No yeah butts requried IMHO. Yeah, I'm fine with luck and had a blast watching the Bills make the playoffs finally. I'm not complaining. I'm just looking towards next year and tempering my expectations because I know the FO is trying to build a perennial contender and that whether or not we make the playoffs in 2018 is meaningless in the long run. Unless, of course, we're really good and make a real SB run. Then, yay!
Stank_Nasty Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: Are you saying the Bills were a legit playoff team? That they had a a real shot of making the Super Bowl? That everything that broke their way wasn't really lucky? the bills most definitely were a legit playoff team. they beat 2 different playoff teams on the road last year. while they were mediocre in a lot of aspects they were very good in others. namely taking the ball away and not giving it away. that's a real thing and teams win when they are good at it. the colts game? it was a blizzard. all conventional wisdom went out the window in that game.... as for the ravens? we did what we needed to do over 16 games and they DID NOT. bottom line. maybe we should go back and credit the steelers for our playoff berth as well. they had quite a drive to finish off the ravens weeks earlier. or how bout and losses the ravens suffered in September? literally any team can look back at a couple of games and if a few plays go one way or the other the season changes or they miss the playoffs. its silly argument against our team, man.
Chandler#81 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I have a feeling back channels are being worked and Foles is coming to Buffalo. I have a feeling there’s an itch on my crotch. one of these feelings has merit 1
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Chandler#81 said: I have a feeling back channels are being worked and Foles is coming to Buffalo. I have a feelibg theres a itch on my crotch. one of these feelings has merit I agree completely with your last statement.
Stank_Nasty Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Domdab99 said: Yeah, I'm fine with luck and had a blast watching the Bills make the playoffs finally. I'm not complaining. I'm just looking towards next year and tempering my expectations because I know the FO is trying to build a perennial contender and that whether or not we make the playoffs in 2018 is meaningless in the long run. Unless, of course, we're really good and make a real SB run. Then, yay! well I also don't agree with this at all. I think playoff experience is a pretty big deal. 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Sort of. It's not just you. I just tire of every time the Bills do something good, there is a long string of yeah butts. Hotrod was not very good. Tim Dalton, blah blah blah. Do other teams do this too? Giants - We won the Super Bowl. yeah butt, the other teams FG kicker missed a 47 yard gimme. Steelers - We won the Super Bowl. Yeah, butt the other team's TE dropped an easy pass in the EZ. Patsies - We won a playoff game. Yeah butt, the ref called a tuck. Steelers- We won a playoff game, yeah butt, Franco made a lucky play on the Immaculate Reception Steelers - We won the game. Yeah butt, the other teams WR dropped a pass in the EZ in OT Vikings - We won a playoff game. Yeah butt, that DB for the Saints took a bad angle on the football Fish - We made the playoffs. Yeah butt, the other team only had 10 men on the fields when Jay made the big game sealing run. Luck is part of the game too and every year is different. No yeah butts requried IMHO. this. 100%. I have no clue why people feel the need to make excuses as to why they made it. any team can look back on a season and have a couple of games they can say that about. 1
akm0404 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I don't believe Foles is coming to Buffalo. The Eagles need him, and we aren't going to break the draft pick bank when all our actions seem directed at building resources to fire a missile at an elite QB prospect. I do not have a read on McCarron, in terms of what kind of situation/money he is looking for. We shall see. Wouldn't be surprised if we bring in a less hypey vet to go with our trade up.
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: Yeah, I'm fine with luck and had a blast watching the Bills make the playoffs finally. Well, except for the call to punt vs the Colts. I look at it differently. Every year is a new year and chance to go all the way! I don't care about 2019, 2020, etc. Just win the next game and it will take care of itself.
billsredneck1 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Waiting for the news that we signed McCarron. i have a feeling it won't be long unless someone makes a ridiculous contract. give me nate/mayfield and rudolph with a good qb coach. spend the money on a good rt./ speed wr. i have all the faith in the world that nate can produce. when's the last time we had a qb that threw 27-33 290 2td per game? he can do it. i predict with a healthy k.b and jones getting in a groove combined with deonte on another 1 yr. deal,...along with oleary and clay, we will be fine. i also expect brandon reilly and dupri to make the team. if we draft a washington or anthony miller, we will see a passing offense this year that we haven;t seen in 20 years. it's gonna be great!
jr1 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Wentz is going to need a brace the rest of his career. They'd be foolish to get rid of Foles
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Trade a second for Foles...Only 4 million next year.Draft Mayfield . Cool handle! Glad to see Jeff Lynne is back at it. I'm not sure how much interest there ever was on F oles, but if we trade up again can we really afford to be tossing 2nd rd picks out for a 1 yr rental? Maybe you could trade him to a team if the rook comes in and tears it up but that's piling even more resources into a position that will be looked at as much as a coach as player. Moore has inspired few, but he can win a game here and there, is avbl when needed, and seems to be a team player who understands the role. Not very exciting, but both the rookie and Peterman would benefit and maybe Peterman takes his role the following year.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) After trading up, we are NOT trading more assets for Foles. It Is clear we are moving up even farther and we need the ammo to do it. Edited March 13, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian 1
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