Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Bills played this perfectly They are the only remaining suitors that can offer a chance to start for a veteran QB. They have all of the leverage Yea they do.
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, MTBill said: The thing with Foles - I think his trade value is diminished. Maybe that "more than a 1st & a 4th" stance has softened up. With the shortage of quality QB play in the NFL, even if you have a sore knee "franchise QB" in Wentz on IR, why would any team dump a Super Bowl MVP QB for peanuts? They can certainly trim the salary cap elsewhere. "The most important position on the team is QB. The second most important is backup QB." -- HOF Joe Gibbs Just now, Domdab99 said: I kind of agree. I'm fine with Peterman going in as the starter next year. No we're not. Beane and Mac have made it clear that they are building a long-term team. Next year will most likely not be a playoff year. I mean, if everything breaks right for the Bills, and their rookie QB is good right away - and we get a No. 1 WR - and we get a play-making ILB - whew - then MAYBE we can make the playoffs. Everything I hear Coach McDermott say it's we're rebuilding AND trying to win at the same time. Worked last year. I expect more of the same this year. I think this dream of trotting out some schmuck next year with no expectations of winning is a pipe dream. Coach McDermott don't play that way ore at least hasn't so far. The past is the greatest predictor of the future.
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 McCown would be my choice, great mentor for our rookie, can start if we feel it's beneficial for our QB to sit and learn.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: With the shortage of quality QB play in the NFL, even if you have a sore knee "franchise QB" in Wentz on IR, why would any team dump a Super Bowl MVP QB for peanuts? They can certainly trim the salary cap elsewhere. "The most important position on the team is QB. The second most important is backup QB." -- HOF Joe Gibbs ....Roseman is back in charge after the GM Chip debacle and knows his stuff....Peters carries a pretty hefty tariff coming off an ACL...I'd start there Howie.... 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: McCown would be my choice, great mentor for our rookie, can start if we feel it's beneficial for our QB to sit and learn. ...Jesters signed him for $10 mil........
Nitro Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 It would seem to me that the Bills were not a serious player in the FA QB market. Putting all their eggs in one basket. The QB they covet in the draft.
dgrochester55 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 My Ideal choice would be one of the top quarterbacks drafted with Anderson or Daniel as insurance.
Foxx Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: With Brees, Garoppolo, Cousins, Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater gone, it all comes down to these options: (there are other QBs but I dont think they are going to happen) Tier 1: (not a FA) Nick Foles Tier 2: (All FA) Aj McCarron Josh McCown Tier 3: (All FA) Derek Anderson Tom Savage Chase Daniel Matt Moore Colin Kaepernick Geno Smith Chad Henne Wonder who the Bills sign / get. what about Fitz? do you think he would come back to Buffalo?
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: With the shortage of quality QB play in the NFL, even if you have a sore knee "franchise QB" in Wentz on IR, why would any team dump a Super Bowl MVP QB for peanuts? They can certainly trim the salary cap elsewhere. "The most important position on the team is QB. The second most important is backup QB." -- HOF Joe Gibbs Everything I hear Coach McDermott say it's we're rebuilding AND trying to win at the same time. Worked last year. I expect more of the same this year. I think this dream of trotting out some schmuck next year with no expectations of winning is a pipe dream. Coach McDermott don't play that way ore at least hasn't so far. The past is the greatest predictor of the future. Of course they're going to TRY to win. They're not tanking. But last year was a miracle. The Bills were not really a playoff team. So many things had to break there way for it to happen the way it did. They were not very good. Nothing wrong with building long-term and trying to win, too...just don't expect the same miracles next year.
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 13, 2018 Author Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Nitro said: It would seem to me that the Bills were not a serious player in the FA QB market. Putting all their eggs in one basket. The QB they covet in the draft. am still holding out hope for a Foles trade. trade makes too much sense for philly to pass on getting a high draft pick and relieve cap concerns Just now, Foxx said: what about Fitz? do you think he would come back to Buffalo? Fitz signed with Tampa Bay 5 days ago
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Just now, Domdab99 said: The Bills were not really a playoff team. does a team have to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND pass the domdab99 test to realy be a playoff team? Why is there always a yeah butt with yall? We made the playoffs. It''s what playoff teams do. Deal with it. Hopefully we will again in 2018. Edited March 13, 2018 by reddogblitz 1
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, reddogblitz said: does a team have to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS ...what exactly are you asking?
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: ...what exactly are you asking? Sorry, I hit return and it posted this. then I edited, but you beat me to it! You're fast.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: With Brees, Garoppolo, Cousins, Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater gone, it all comes down to these options: (there are other QBs but I dont think they are going to happen) Tier 1: (not a FA) Nick Foles Tier 2: (All FA) Aj McCarron Josh McCown Tier 3: (All FA) Derek Anderson Tom Savage Chase Daniel Matt Moore Colin Kaepernick Geno Smith Chad Henne Wonder who the Bills sign / get. I think you got your tier 3 and tier 2 mixed a bit. At least, I don't see why AJ McCarron is considered a better prospect than Chase Daniel. And while he may be persona non grata, Kaepernick has certainly shown more as a QB than the likes of Geno Smith and Tom Savage. McCown is off the table. If Beane is true to his earlier word and wants a vet, interesting to see who he's going to try to tap. Badlands Meanie and his Derek Anderson suggestion may not be the fool some thought, if the plan is truly to go for a rookie that can start right away. Edited March 13, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan
Paul Costa Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, 707BillsFan said: There should not be any more bidders for Foles (if there even was any to begin with). Eagles are in a bit of cap hell. They need to dump salary. If their demands are too high, they keep Foles and have to cut other areas where they may not want. They'd probably have to come down in their demands to relieve some pressure...if Foles, is in fact, in play. I agree we can get him for less than 8 Million for this year. EGles need to move him in the next 22 hours as they need their house in order by 4PM tomorrow. A second this year and a 4th next year should do the trick. We would then have a solid QB for this season. If this happened I would take the best player available at 12 & 22 in the draft. I would take the QB from Western Kentucky with pick 65 if we don’t draft one earlier. With 12 we would be able to get Vea, Smith, Ward, or possibly Allen , Mayfield or Jackson. If Foles plays well next year we can extend him if we wish. I obviously feel Foles is a solid Top 10 QB. He has displayed that at times as recently as last year. I know I am in the vast minority here.
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: does a team have to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND pass the domdab99 test to realy be a playoff team? Why is there always a yeah butt with yall? We made the playoffs. It''s what playoff teams do. Deal with it. Hopefully we will again in 2018. Hope and $4.99 will get you a grande iced caramel mochacino. Edited March 13, 2018 by Domdab99
billsredneck1 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, skibum said: Foles will be too expensive, so it's really down to your tier 2 and 3. Anyone wishing the FO had held off on trading Tyrod for a few more days? so...maybe foles and mayfield gives us a kinda brady/jimmy g situation. i'll take it. good investment
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Just now, Domdab99 said: Hope and $4.99 will get you a grande iced caramel mochacino. Doesn't answer my question, but thanks for the tip, Edited March 13, 2018 by reddogblitz
billsredneck1 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: I agree we can get him for less than 8 Million for this year. EGles need to move him in the next 22 hours as they need their house in order by 4PM tomorrow. A second this year and a 4th next year should do the trick. We would then have a solid QB for this season. If this happened I would take the best player available at 12 & 22 in the draft. I would take the QB from Western Kentucky with pick 65 if we don’t draft one earlier. With 12 we would be able to get Vea, Smith, Ward, or possibly Allen , Mayfield or Jackson. If Foles plays well next year we can extend him if we wish. I obviously feel Foles is a solid Top 10 QB. He has displayed that at times as recently as last year. I know I am in the vast minority here. if we got foles, i would sure be all in on the rest of your plan.
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I think using a high draft/ big money to guys who have never had success outside of Philly and Alabama seems like a great idea. draft a guy and sign a cheap vet. 4 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: so...maybe foles and mayfield gives us a kinda brady/jimmy g situation. i'll take it. good investment Minus the whole greatest qb ever part!
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: oh you were serious? You want me to answer "does a team have to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND pass the domdab99 test to realy be a playoff team?" I just figured you were playing semantics. Yes, they made the playoffs. So, technically, the Bills are "a playoff team." I know that. So does everyone else. However, we also all know that the Bills team last year was mediocre at best, and we only made the playoffs because the Colts coach made worse decisions than Mac did, and because Andy Dalton decided to pretend to be an elite QB for one play. So, while I'd love for them to make the playoffs again, I'd much rather them build a strong foundation for a team that becomes a perennial Super Bowl contender, like the Pats, Steelers, Packers, Seahawks, etc. Does that answer your question? Edited March 13, 2018 by Domdab99 lol I quoted the wrong person! 1
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