offyourocker Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Philly has to do something for their cap right?
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Make that mccarron and Foles. Mccown going back to Jets.
NewEraBills Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Nope. If the Bills are trading into the top 5, say pick 3. Forget Foles, McCarron. The latter is still young enough to play for 10 years. The former has too much demand from the Eagles surrounding him. So why waste the cap space on them? Just get a vet that can serve as a mentor and understand that he's not going to be starting long, if at all.
transplantbillsfan Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Teams with open QB positions are drying up. I would offer 1 yr deals to both McCarron or McCown telling them they would have a chance to win the starting job in training camp. McCarron gets a shot to set himself up for a big pay day if he plays well either from the Bills or another team. This allows us to not rush a rookie QB out on the field too soon. Who cares about rushing the rookie on the field at this point? Unless it's Jackson or Allen, let Mayfield/Darnold/Rosen start day 1 and take their lumps. It's what QBs do nowadays. KC last year was an anomaly. High 1st round rookie QBs don't need this time on the bench anymore and we can use the money we save from not spending a lot of money on McCown or McCarron on other positions like OL to strengthen the team and surround our young QB with more talent to succeed.
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IgotBILLStopay Posted March 13, 2018 Author Posted March 13, 2018 Now just Foles / McCarron! Read rumors that Miami was interested in MCCarron. Will try to find the link.
Joaquin1119 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Only get Foles for the right price. Beside that I be happy with AJ 1
scribo Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Now it seems it is McCarron, Foles or Peterson. Or whoever we draft. I'd rather start Peterson or the rookie than bring in any of the third-tier guys.
brianthomas Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 since the Jets resigned McCown it looks like Bridgewater is back on the market. Perhaps he's in play for the Bills.
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I'd be fine with McCarron as a bridge guy. Something like 3 years, $19M? why do we want Bridgewater? He hasn't played in two years. He's a bigger risk than Bradford.
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: Very happy the Bills didn't reach for Keenum/Bridgewater/Bradford/Cousins... if we're trading up to get a QB stud, all we need is a bridge like McCarron or McCown or even Moore. I like what they're doing. Remember, if any of these so-called great FAs out there were actually great, they wouldn't be available! It’s not so much that they’re great, it’s that they are the bridge QBs best able to keep you competitive while your star rookie bakes until ready.
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, K-9 said: It’s not so much that they’re great, it’s that they are the bridge QBs best able to keep you competitive while your star rookie bakes until ready. Yeah, but I don't think we should be paying $16M a year for a bridge.
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Why is everyone so obsessed over a bridge QB who may never even play a snap as a starter for the Bills? I mean who cares...might as well just let Nate Pickerman go out there until the rookie is ready, assuming the rookie didn't just win the job outright in preseason. The bridge guy is completely meaningless...all that matters is our rookie. Anyone in tier 3 is fine...in fact, the cheaper the better. Why tie up cap space with a pricey backup...just get some guy in here to battle our rookie and NP to start week 1. Odds are the rookie will win the job anyway, and if not just start JAG QB or NP a short period until the rook takes over.
MTBill Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 The thing with Foles - I think his trade value is diminished. Maybe that "more than a 1st & a 4th" stance has softened up. Maybe you go with McCarron & a rookie + Peterman if Foles is still requiring too much draft capital. The trouble with the draft right now is you still have to package a lot to get one of those big names I think... I suspect the Bills will be waiting to pull the trigger on a trade up. I bet they have 1a and 1b on their board - if one of them go, they start really making a push - but it'll be a dog fight I think, albeit one where we have the most draft capital in 2018 to do it.
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Yeah, but I don't think we should be paying $16M a year for a bridge. I understand that feeling, but it's what the market will bear at the present time. With the rookie wage scale and what star QB draft picks command, it's still commensurate with what a mediocre starting and decent backup make, anyway.
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 McCown got $10M. That's more like it. If we pay a career backup like McCarron more than that, that's crazy.
reddogblitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I am trying to figure out why we wouldnt want McNown..... - Its short term - he is not gonna get this crazy money - he played well till his injury last year How about, he's not very good and we're trying to win.
thebandit27 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Bills played this perfectly They are the only remaining suitors that can offer a chance to start for a veteran QB. They have all of the leverage 1
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Why is everyone so obsessed over a bridge QB who may never even play a snap as a starter for the Bills? I mean who cares...might as well just let Nate Pickerman go out there until the rookie is ready, assuming the rookie didn't just win the job outright in preseason. The bridge guy is completely meaningless...all that matters is our rookie. Anyone in tier 3 is fine...in fact, the cheaper the better. Why tie up cap space with a pricey backup...just get some guy in here to battle our rookie and NP to start week 1. Odds are the rookie will win the job anyway, and if not just start JAG QB or NP a short period until the rook takes over. I kind of agree. I'm fine with Peterman going in as the starter next year. 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: How about, he's not very good and we're trying to win. No we're not. Beane and Mac have made it clear that they are building a long-term team. Next year will most likely not be a playoff year. I mean, if everything breaks right for the Bills, and their rookie QB is good right away - and we get a No. 1 WR - and we get a play-making ILB - whew - then MAYBE we can make the playoffs.
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